State of the Peloton 2025

[Ripper]

Just in time to add to your letter to Santa ... G gives it all the "I'm just a normal bloke who likes a pint and just happened to win the Tour" bs -
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...france-cycling-bradley-wiggins-mark-cavendish

Regarding the second quote from the article, he is not exactly wrong.

 

[Rob5091]

Regarding the second quote from the article, he is not exactly wrong.

This quote you mean?

"It shows we’re held to a different standard than a lot of other teams.”

If so, it's just bs, as Rozman's "troubles" are due to a public court case and not one of the UCI/WADA secret get togethers. If it were Visma, Bora or whoever it would still be all over the news.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Who will clinic favourite Wiggo point the finger at? Will it be Dodgy Dave, Chris Clive, Rozman, the illusive Maestro Balthazar, or the much more likely option of 'dark forces' and 'elements within British cycling'.

Bradley Wiggins on doping allegations: ‘Team Sky chucked me under a bus to protect someone else’

Bradley Wiggins says Team Sky sacrificed him to “protect someone else” during the doping investigations that overshadowed the final years of his career.

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I won't be purchasing the fog he is selling so hopefully someone on here with deep pockets can give us the cliffnotes.

 

[Ripper]

This quote you mean?

If so, it's just bs, as Rozman's "troubles" are due to a public court case and not one of the UCI/WADA secret get togethers. If it were Visma, Bora or whoever it would still be all over the news.

I think the statement "I think if you looked at other teams as intensely, then there will be lots of questions about them” is actually correct. I don't think it changes anything about the attention Ineos received in this case, and it could just be deflection and whining from G (I'm only reading the bits you have provided). However, other than this forum, do other teams get the same attention on their associations? I mean UAE most likely should get hammered once a month for their continued leadership/management team of ex-dopers and former doping leadership actively running the team, but that bear rarely was poked, never mind fully investigated.

So G can be correct in some or much of what he says, but that does not change the issues at hand for Ineos and what has occurred. It is somewhat like saying ... "but other people do bad stuff too, why do we get all the h8t? Boo hoo"

 

[Rob5091]

What UAE have done these past years is way more then Team Sky did in their worse "jacked up" years. Should UAE be the poster boys everday of the week for "enhanced" guys and extremely dodgy management? Absolutely, but you can also add on Visma and some other teams who have joined in the "arms race".
UAE's/Pogis's PR has also been way better then Sky's.

 

[AmRacer]

What UAE have done these past years is way more then Team Sky did in their worse "jacked up" years. Should UAE be the poster boys everday of the week for "enhanced" guys and extremely dodgy management? Absolutely, but you can also add on Visma and some other teams who have joined in the "arms race".
UAE's/Pogis's PR has also been way better then Sky's.

Sky has won GTs with multiple riders.
Visma has won GTs with multiple riders.
UAE hasn't.

 

[Rob5091]

Sky has won GTs with multiple riders.
Visma has won GTs with multiple riders.
UAE hasn't.

Did Sky or Visma win nearly 100 races in a year with 20 different riders? How many monuments or World Champs have they won since 2019?

 

[AmRacer]

Did Sky or Visma win nearly 100 races in a year with 20 different riders? How many monuments or World Champs have they won since 2019?

2019? Since the rise of Pogi the 🐐?