Stick a fork in Garmin-Cervelo...

[Waterloo Sunrise]

You mean like Wigans?

Yes.

Was that not obvious? Wiggins, Ryder et al are part of a large pack of riders who can get a top 10 if they hang on, but can't afford to give cheap time away.

 

[JRanton]

The one "not going to win" GC rider after today who is in trouble for a high place, at this point is Kreuziger. The official Tour results jump around a bit. How did Hesjedal gain 30 seconds on Danielson and VdV today in the TTT?

Stage 1 GC:



After today's TTT:



Official results had all three riders at 1:55 before the stage started this morning.

I also noticed that about Hesjedal when I was looking through the standings.

There are two possible explanations.

1) He actually finished 1.20 down on the first stage and came in with the Contador group as opposed to the Danielson, Vande Velde group at 1.55.

or

2) He finished the first stage 1.55 down but there's been an error with the stage two overall standings.

The most likely answer is the second one I think, given that you'd think they would have corrected the stage one error by now if there was one.

 

[ElChingon]

Yea, they look to be done

 

[roundabout]

I also noticed that about Hesjedal when I was looking through the standings.

There are two possible explanations.

1) He actually finished 1.20 down on the first stage and came in with the Contador group as opposed to the Danielson, Vande Velde group at 1.55.

or

2) He finished the first stage 1.55 down but there's been an error with the stage two overall standings.

The most likely answer is the second one I think, given that you'd think they would have corrected the stage one error by now if there was one.

Ask Vaughters/team on twitter?

 

[perico]

I'm almost to the point of saying that the whole thing needs to be neutralized or we're going to be figuring this out for the rest of the Tour. It's ridiculous. If Schleck and Contador finished together yesterday, give them the same time. Same as VdV, Hesjedal, Danielson. Give everyone who was caught out after the 10 km crash 1:20 or six seconds, or they're going to be adjusting the overall time until Paris.

 

[Cobblestones]

A little premature to stick a fork in them, yet, but I assume by the end of stage 4, Garmin-Cervelo might be out of yellow? Can Hushovd survive on the Mur?

 

[roundabout]

Evans gapped Hushovd on an easier climb. Question is how much Evans wants yellow. A km at 10% is a lot even though the finish flattens out. Maybe Millar can do it instead.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Evans gapped Hushovd on an easier climb. Question is how much Evans wants yellow. A km at 10% is a lot even though the finish flattens out. Maybe Millar can do it instead.

Evans might want yellow but remember there's still a few people who are very capable at this kind of finish within a handful of seconds.

 

[Midnightfright]

Evans might want yellow but remember there's still a few people who are very capable at this kind of finish within a handful of seconds.

I think its going to be an excellent finish. There will be plenty riders jumping off the front trying to get yellow. With regards to Evans I don't think he will be able resist wearing yellow if he can

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

I feel the same. You never know when you're going to get it, and since he has to be questioning in the back of his mind whether he really can topple AC/AS, I think he'll try to take it.

But so will several other riders. It won't surprise me at all if Frank tries to take the jersey. He also has strong teammates to set-him up for it on the Mûr.

Props to Tour organizers for Stages 1 and 4 finishes. They are taking a tip from the Giro it seems.

 

[uphillstruggle]

Evans might want yellow but remember there's still a few people who are very capable at this kind of finish within a handful of seconds.

Only really the Schleck's on that kind of finish that could distance Evans by enough to beat him to yellow. And frankly Evans will most likely fight, as usual, and the schleck's will be conservative, as usual.

 

[veganrob]

So the guy with one 7th place is the only one with a chance, while the guy with a 4th, 8th (with cracked vertabrae in his back), and a crashout in last year's tour has no realistic chance? As long as VdV and Danielson don't injure themselves (which is always a possibility), I'd take their chances as much as Ryder's. They are all on good form, so they've got some work, but I'd hardly discount any of them from a good finish.

CVV results were more than just a few years ago taking into account his injuries and his 4th before was weak. So yes, Ryder has a better chance and Tom D, zero

 

[just some guy]

I think its going to be an excellent finish. There will be plenty riders jumping off the front trying to get yellow. With regards to Evans I don't think he will be able resist wearing yellow if he can

Taking yellow gaining seconds on as many gc people as possible before stage 12 and then hanging on to Andys wheel till the TT.

 

[Midnightfright]

Taking yellow gaining seconds on as many gc people as possible before stage 12 and then hanging on to Andys wheel till the TT.

Thats exactly what he will be planning. That is the right thing for him to do aswell.

 

[Swabian Lass]

Sounds like a plan to me. I think it's his best bet, really.

 

[hrotha]

CVV results were more than just a few years ago taking into account his injuries and his 4th before was weak. So yes, Ryder has a better chance and Tom D, zero

Hesjedal has done exactly one good GC in his whole career. Until we see confirmation that he can do it again, he's more of a fluke than Wiggins.

 

[Eric8-A]

In an article on this website yesterday, JV said that none of his riders had a chance at a podium, but they were capable of acheieving a top 10. Yes, it's still too early. They havn't even reached the mountains yet. And they're not the only ones that we're affected by the crashes from yesterday. There's still three weeks left and anything can happen. So lets not be too quick too judge until the big mountain stages come.

 

[brianf7]

They're done - at least for GC chances.

Ryder, Tommy D and CVV all 1:55 down after the first stage.

Unless one of them makes it into a runaway breakaway or they absolutely kill everyone in the TTT, there's no way they can give up almost two minutes in the first stage and hope to podium.

Of course, I'm willing to be proved wrong, and would like to see at least one of their riders make a stunning comeback, but that's not a good way to start the Tour.


Then again, maybe it's Ramunas Navardauskas' turn to have a breakout Tour!

Spoken too soon!!!!!~

 

[Anonymous]

this thread seems even more ridiculous today than it did yesterday.

 

[greenedge]

At least they got the all important stage win and Thor ( World Champion ) in yellow. Most teams are happy with that. Also they shall be given rein to go stage hunting as well.

 

[greenedge]

It's a great idea however he will probably not exhaust his team on stages 5-7 to keep it. i want Chavanel to wear yellow for a bit

 

[9000ft]

Yep, stick a fork in 'em. They suck. They got nothin', nada, zip.

 

[Cobblestones]

A little premature to stick a fork in them, yet, but I assume by the end of stage 4, Garmin-Cervelo might be out of yellow? Can Hushovd survive on the Mur?

Quoting myself here.

Turns out that yes.

(sorry for resurrecting this thread).

 

[perico]

CVV results were more than just a few years ago taking into account his injuries and his 4th before was weak. So yes, Ryder has a better chance and Tom D, zero

Ok... Vande Velde was 4th in 2008, 8th in 2009, and DNF in 2010. More than a few years ago??? Logic???

 

[goggalor]

this thread seems even more ridiculous today than it did yesterday.

And it keeps getting more ridiculous every day.