Strade Bianche 2023, March 4, one-day classic (men's & women's)

Page 11 - Get up to date with the latest news, scores & standings from the Cycling News Community.
Toggle sidebar Toggle sidebar
DNP-Old

DNP-Old

Aug 6, 2014
9,848
7,055
23,180
Red Rick said:
You can find reasons to give team orders, but aren't they both basically team leaders?

I think team orders could easily be "secure 1-2, and no hard feelings at team party"
Click to expand...
They are, but SD Worx is also the living representation of why women's cycling is far from where it needs to be. This is what you get with little to no parity. Just wait until Wiebes survives a climb or two in Flanders, it'll be glorious.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Red Rick
Y

yaco

Jun 20, 2015
15,374
6,041
28,180
Faulkner was unlucky in the finish - If it was two riders chasing from different teams then Faulkner wins BUT with two riders from the same team then life is different - Anyway, Jayco has to learn to place their riders better - Faulkner should never have been a last minute injury replacement in the Jayco team.
 
limak_

limak_

Nov 17, 2020
1,143
1,407
7,680
BR2 said:
And you have a right to close the way. It's a super steep climb, not a sprint where this could lead to a dangerous fall.
Click to expand...
Yhmm, no you don't? Fast sprint or slow uphill, you have no right to block a faster rider.
 
Volderke

Volderke

Mar 29, 2012
3,641
5,392
19,180
limak_ said:
I'm not sure but for me it also looked like Faulkner wanted to block Demi for a second. It looked liked she drifted right just after Vollering touched her and that it wasn't completely unintentional.
Click to expand...
Vollering was trying to make space where there wasn't any. Faulkner is 100% in her right to keep that line and even stress she isn't going anywhere by closing that line completely.
Maybe not a gentle(wo)men move, but to turn it around as if Vollering is entitled to passing on her right and Faulkner is doing anything wrong, is stretching it (by the Sporza commentator).
 
T

theyoungest

Jan 11, 2010
15,620
4,559
28,180
That horse will become one of the iconic images of cycling. Can't be better. 19th century gravel roads and a horse running in front.

Fantastic final, if the men's race is half as exciting we should already be happy. Faulkner looked a bit dodgy there blocking Vollering, but most likely she didn't know what the hell she was doing out of pure fatigue.

But make no mistake, she did block Vollering. If you do this in a flat race it's a DQ, no matter how tired you are.

edit: oh, and how about Pieterse. Crossing the line as if she'd won. Gotta love her. Fair to say women's cross is at quite a high level right now.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Monte Serra and awavey
Volderke

Volderke

Mar 29, 2012
3,641
5,392
19,180
limak_ said:
Yhmm, no you don't? Fast sprint or slow uphill, you have no right to block a faster rider.
Click to expand...
errr. No, you don't have any right, when you're faster, to pretend like the slower rider in front of you is air you can ride through. It's called positioning, and it's the main reason sprints are often not won by the fastest sprinter, because there was someone in the way. That someone in the way is NEVER in the wrong if holding his line. And that is what Faulkner did.
 
Volderke

Volderke

Mar 29, 2012
3,641
5,392
19,180
theyoungest said:
But make no mistake, she did block Vollering. If you do this in a flat race it's a DQ, no matter how tired you are.
Click to expand...
absolute bull...
She stood her ground. Vollering tried to create a gap by pushing a rider. Don't turn it around. If anything, Vollering should decide where there is space to overtake, and should keep her hands at home (technically, if there would be any rieason for DQ, it would be Vollering taking her hands of the bar to push another rider...!). If she gently tries to indicate / push Faulkner, no harm, but it's a gesture that Faulkner can simply ignore.
 
  • Like
Reactions: jono
P

pmcg76

Mar 6, 2009
4,607
505
17,080
Been watching the Women's pro side for a few year now and it still seems so illogical at times. Letting a rider as strong as Faulkner just ride of the front and gain an almost 2 min lead with 20km to go is crazy. Agree that if Vollering was by herself or with someone from another team, Faulkner likely hangs on.

I really think there was a little bit of conflict between the SD riders at the finish, Vollering seemed surprised when Kopecky nipped in front before the last corner. Might be interesting to follow.

Of course highlight was Puck in 6th, did an awful lot on the front when other more experienced riders were hanging back. Still a great ride. Now waiting to see what can Fem do???
 
  • Like
Reactions: Andy262 and Sandisfan
T

theyoungest

Jan 11, 2010
15,620
4,559
28,180
Volderke said:
absolute bull...
She stood her ground. Vollering tried to create a gap by pushing a rider. Don't turn it around. If anything, Vollering should decide where there is space to overtake, and should keep her hands at home (technically, if there would be any rieason for DQ, it would be Vollering taking her hands of the bar to push another rider...!). If she gently tries to indicate / push Faulkner, no harm, but it's a gesture that Faulkner can simply ignore.
Click to expand...
I suggest you (and the Sporza commentators, apparently) watch it again. This is just not what happened. Faulkner closed the door on her way too rigorously. I'm not saying it was intentional, actually the opposite, but she did.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Sandisfan and Volderke
limak_

limak_

Nov 17, 2020
1,143
1,407
7,680
Volderke said:
errr. No, you don't have any right, when you're faster, to pretend like the slower rider in front of you is air you can ride through. It's called positioning, and it's the main reason sprints are often not won by the fastest sprinter, because there was someone in the way. That someone in the way is NEVER in the wrong if holding his line. And that is what Faulkner did.
Click to expand...
Ok, but I (and Vollering very likely as well) look at this situation from another perspective. At the point when they caught Faulkner, SD Worx duo was considerably faster and the American was basically out of contention already. From that point it was Vollering vs Kopecky, not Faulkner vs Vollering vs Kopecky. And we're not discussing holding your line here, but it's changing your line and blocking a rider coming from behind, when being significantly slower.
 
search

search

Aug 29, 2009
7,920
7,155
23,180
just tuned in on German Eurosport: Commentary by Christian Lichtenberg, with expert Claudia Lichtenberg on his side. That's something new! :D

"And now back on the sofa to watch the men's race."
 
  • Like
Reactions: Leinster
T

theyoungest

Jan 11, 2010
15,620
4,559
28,180
pmcg76 said:
Of course highlight was Puck in 6th, did an awful lot on the front when other more experienced riders were hanging back. Still a great ride. Now waiting to see what can Fem do???
Click to expand...
Fem will do both Fleches (Brabançonne and Wallonne). Now while she's probably even more suited to the road than Puck is, the Mur de Huy is quite the place to start. A bit too hard probably. Strade Bianche would have been way better for her.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Sandisfan
Jagartrott

Jagartrott

Apr 15, 2014
4,254
2,341
18,680
Letting a teammate win is cringy, but this did not look too good either, especially the body language afterwards. Either clearly agree that rider x can win, or that you fight for it until the end. Now, it seems nothing was agreed clearly.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Sandisfan
You must log in or register to reply here.

TRENDING THREADS

Latest posts

Share this page

COMPANY
RESOURCES
FOLLOW
Top Bottom