Summer Games Paris 2024

[red_flanders]

Were they booing the incident or just the fact the French had lost the win ?

And GB fans can be just as boorish fwiw

Seemed fairly obvious they were booing what they thought was an overly aggressive move by Pidcock.

Like I said, I think it was a racing incident and fine, I also can see how the home fans would cry foul. We don’t need to villainize any fan base to process what happened. It’s a race. Stuff happens. Fans react emotionally.

 

[Unchained]

TDF ride around appears to have been effective for Pidcock..will the same be true for MvP...

 

[Axel Hangleck]

Never leave a gap when Pidcock is around - as he'll take it. Koreztky had already made a mistake, and wasn't thinking/ gassed, so Pidcock put his bike there........perfectly fair. That part of the track has two routes to allow 'racing'.....

 

[SafeBet]

What a race! Pidcock with a comeback for the ages.

 

[Valv.Piti]

That was possibly the best advertisement that MTB could hope for. I think this was my 2nd or 3rd race I have ever watched, and it was a very good one. Most likely wouldn't have prioritized being in front of the TV if not for Pidcock, so I think its incredibly important that you have a few riders from the road the fans know which will make people like me tune in

 

[red_flanders]

That was possibly the best advertisement that MTB could hope for. I think this was my 2nd or 3rd race I have ever watched, and it was a very good one. Most likely wouldn't have prioritized being in front of the TV if not for Pidcock, so I think its incredibly important that you have a few riders from the road the fans know which will make people like me tune in

Agree, great race and great for the sport. My only comment would be great for XCO. For sure Downhill would be the best advertisement for the sport anyone could hope for. That's exciting and spectacular every time. But I hear ya, it was a great event.

 

[search]

apparently Aniolkowski will replace Kwiato for the road race.

Personally, I struggle to see how this is allowed, though.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1817888064745709568

View: https://x.com/kwiato/status/1817888064745709568

 

[RedheadDane]

apparently Aniolkowski will replace Kwiato for the road race.

Personally, I struggle to see how this is allowed, though.

Why wouldn't it be allowed?

 

[search]

Why wouldn't it be allowed?

because the rider doing the ITT needs to come from the team's quota. Otherwise Switzerland could replace Bissegger with Hirschi as well now to maximize its chances.

Imo Kwiatkowski has already blocked that road cycling quota spot by doing the ITT, and therefor can only be replaced by a track/mtb/bmx rider.

 

[RedheadDane]

because the rider doing the ITT needs to come from the team's quota. Otherwise Switzerland could replace Bissegger with Hirschi as well now to maximize its chances.

Imo Kwiatkowski has already blocked that road cycling quota spot by doing the ITT, and therefor can only be replaced by a track/mtb/bmx rider.

Oh... because it would be soooo hooorrible if there were "too many" cyclists...

 

[Squire]

because the rider doing the ITT needs to come from the team's quota. Otherwise Switzerland could replace Bissegger with Hirschi as well now to maximize its chances.

Imo Kwiatkowski has already blocked that road cycling quota spot by doing the ITT, and therefor can only be replaced by a track/mtb/bmx rider.

Yeah, I wonder what rules provide for the Kwiat and Bissegger switches. Then Portugal and Norway might as well ditch Oliveira and Foss for the road race and bring in Almeida and Tiller. And what happens to Plapp's spot?

Edit: Apparently there's a 'Late Athlete Replacement Process'. Guess they just need a doctor's note or something.

 

[Sciatic]

Yeah, I wonder what rules provide for the Kwiat and Bissegger switches. Then Portugal and Norway might as well ditch Oliveira and Foss for the road race and bring in Almeida and Tiller. And what happens to Plapp's spot?

Edit: Apparently there's a 'Late Athlete Replacement Process'. Guess they just need a doctor's note or something.

Indeed, It’s called a CUE rather a TUE. Convenient Use Exemption

 

[search]

Yeah, I wonder what rules provide for the Kwiat and Bissegger switches. Then Portugal and Norway might as well ditch Oliveira and Foss for the road race and bring in Almeida and Tiller. And what happens to Plapp's spot?

Edit: Apparently there's a 'Late Athlete Replacement Process'. Guess they just need a doctor's note or something.

Bissegger/Hirschi was just an example. I didn't even notice that it had already happened

Stefan Bissegger muss auf das Strassenrennen verzichten - Swiss Cycling

Aufgrund von Schmerzen in der Rückenmuskulatur wird Stefan Bissegger im olympischen Strassenrennen von Paris nicht am Start stehen. Der Thurgauer Radfahrer wird durch Marc Hirschi ersetzt.

www.swiss-cycling.ch

 

[awavey]

Seemed fairly obvious they were booing what they thought was an overly aggressive move by Pidcock.

Like I said, I think it was a racing incident and fine, I also can see how the home fans would cry foul. We don’t need to villainize any fan base to process what happened. It’s a race. Stuff happens. Fans react emotionally.

so the booing before the move was just pre-emptive then I guess ?

 

[red_flanders]

so the booing before the move was just pre-emptive then I guess ?

I guess I missed that. I assumed folks were referring to the booing at the end, which was unmistakeable.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Were they booing the incident or just the fact the French had lost the win ?

And GB fans can be just as boorish fwiw

A lot is to do with the coverage that those fans are supplied by their national broadcasters. British commentators are the dirt worst when it comes to one-eyed fandom, but French TV directors this week have been skipping medal events to talk to fans about French prospects and cut to heats in much more marginal sports where a Frenchman is participating. It's no wonder that such practices beget chauvinistic fans.

 

[Tonton]

Yvan Clolus, the French coach was in l'Equipe (link below), emotional, gutted, he didn't file a complaint...case closed.

https://www.lequipe.fr/Jo-2024-pari...pidcock-il-va-y-repenser-toute-sa-vie/1486574

Victor was super strong today, we are all proud of him. Tom was just a little bit faster. Bravo to both! I completely agree that this kind of cycling brings fans to the sport. Epic race. Congrats Tom!

 

[Squire]

Bissegger/Hirschi was just an example. I didn't even notice that it had already happened

Stefan Bissegger muss auf das Strassenrennen verzichten - Swiss Cycling

Aufgrund von Schmerzen in der Rückenmuskulatur wird Stefan Bissegger im olympischen Strassenrennen von Paris nicht am Start stehen. Der Thurgauer Radfahrer wird durch Marc Hirschi ersetzt.

www.swiss-cycling.ch

Wasn't sure if you didn't know or if it was a sarcastic joke from you.

 

[carolina]

Yeah, I wonder what rules provide for the Kwiat and Bissegger switches. Then Portugal and Norway might as well ditch Oliveira and Foss for the road race and bring in Almeida and Tiller. And what happens to Plapp's spot?

Edit: Apparently there's a 'Late Athlete Replacement Process'. Guess they just need a doctor's note or something.

Almeida would be terrible, please no. Oliveira will be of great help for Rui Costa during the entire race.

 

[yaco]

O'Connor to replace Plapp in the men's RR. An OK selection but Groves would have been a better choice.

 

[Salvarani]

Exactly why is Ayuso there? Given this route.

Surely Spain would have benefitted more from someone else there to help Aranburu and Lazkano?

Like Adria, Garcia Cortina, Serrano, Verona... and even like Romeo could have made more sense with his engine to protect/help the others in the beginning of the race.

 

[Offline]

Exactly why is Ayuso there? Given this route.

To kiss with his dog on WW television at the finish line.

 

[Kwaremonster]

I'm really curious how this race will play out. The Belgians are favourites and are probably gonna roll attacks. The best way to deal with that is for other teams to do the same and they probably will. It will be chaos.

Having said that, an Evenepoel win seems most likely. He probably attacks when the few domestiques in this race are exhausted. If he gets some separation, who is gonna go after him?

Then again, I see him as a favourite for pretty much any one day race since he won that flat Belgium NC and in Glasgow that didn't work. This isn't so specific though.

 

[Potomac]

I'm really curious how this race will play out. The Belgians are favourites and are probably gonna roll attacks. The best way to deal with that is for other teams to do the same and they probably will. It will be chaos.

Having said that, an Evenepoel win seems most likely. He probably attacks when the few domestiques in this race are exhausted. If he gets some separation, who is gonna go after him?

Then again, I see him as a favourite for pretty much any one day race since he won that flat Belgium NC and in Glasgow that didn't work. This isn't so specific though.

Is the profile more like RVV, PR or more like the Ardennes ?

 

[Coffeeplanter]

Is the profile more like RVV, PR or more like the Ardennes ?

Neither. It's more like Amstel Gold Race meets Ronde van Vlaanderen. There is no solid, top level blueprint for this course, it falls exactly in between.