'Suspect' performances

[Mrs John Murphy]

We can add irony to the list of concepts that you don't understand. Are you Alanis Morrisette?

As for being crying, I'm not the one who is upset about my hero being accused of doping. You are obviously hurt because you wouldn't keep on coming back to this thread after saying you were going to leave me to it. If you weren't upset then you obviously wouldn't keep on trying to defend Cuddles.

 

[Trev_S]

Simple.
Evans has not shown any big improvement over what he has done for years.
He chased and was beaten by proven dopers.
Dopers busted leaving Evans higher on the ladder.
Dopers return (no doubt more cautious to be clean/er) and their levels dropped.
A number of other front running GT riders have not targeted the Giro.
Evans has changed to a team where he is happier.
Evans won the Worlds by being smart and is currently racing with that same manner.
Evans has not always been a 'wheelsucker' (as many would say) and all of a sudden turned into a catch me if you can rider.
He has never been labeled as being half suspect.

Some like him, some don't, but it sure seams like he has gained at least a little more fan base (or respect) from some of the dislikers this year.

 

[Green Tea]

'Suspect' performances

Creatine.

Creatine.

Creatine.

I know that for a fact. There not doping, creatine is within WADA & benefiical to buffering lactic acid & increasing power output.

Sagan uses creatine, which he has been using for his final bang to close the stages hes won.

 

[dickwrench]

'Suspect' performances

Creatine.

Creatine.

Creatine.

I know that for a fact. There not doping, creatine is within WADA & benefiical to buffering lactic acid & increasing power output.

Sagan uses creatine, which he has been using for his final bang to close the stages hes won.

Man you on crack? That stuff doesn't work for endurance athletes because it makes them cramp. I used it and I know.

 

[python]

Man you on crack? That stuff doesn't work for endurance athletes because it makes them cramp. I used it and I know.

DR maserati, hue janus and others please take a note of the style

oh, dickwench, i agree with you. can we be friends ?

 

[Green Tea]

Trust me...

These guys are doing creatine.

Read the stuff it does for endurance.

http://www.affordablesupplements.co.uk/San+V12+Turbo.html

http://www.affordablesupplements.co.uk/Creatine.3/Creatine+Monohydrates.15/Tri+Matrix+Evolution.2699.html


This is the stuff there using.

When I say Sagan uses creatine, I KNOW THAT FOR A FACT.

 

[Nick777]

Physician arise and heal thyself. Look, its not my fault that you are a hypocrite and a crybaby.

I must have missed the meeting where you decided what 'evidence' is acceptable and what is not. I must have missed the meeting where no one was allowed to question the improvement in Cuddles' performance.

The evidence is what I see before me. I see a doped up Cuddles and a whiny Von Mises getting their knickers in a twist because someone has dared to have a negative opinion of their boy Cuddles.

Did you actually read the first post in this thread? Rides you consider to be suspicious.

Either the improvement in Cuddles' performance is suspicious, or all the excuses given to explain why he never attacked were ********. It's one or the other.

Oh and Sastre was suggested at the time as Amigo.

Now, wipe your eyes and go and read some of the Cuddles-love-in threads. I am sure you'll feel a lot better.

I am still failing to see this amazing improvement you keep going on about. Evans has won 2 races this year, is sitting where everyone expected him to be in the Giro, and is where he has sat thereabouts in GT's over his whole career. The only difference is, no Contador, or Schlecks.

 

[tinga1]

we can add irony to the list of concepts that you don't understand. Are you alanis morrisette?

As for being crying, i'm not the one who is upset about my hero being accused of doping. You are obviously hurt because you wouldn't keep on coming back to this thread after saying you were going to leave me to it. If you weren't upset then you obviously wouldn't keep on trying to defend cuddles.

pixies!!!!

 

[karlboss]

If Evans has increased his functional power to weight by more than 1% this year I would be surprised. 2 results, timed an uphill sprint where he learnt the year before, and took a good line into a corner. No more attacking than ever before, seems to have learned tactics, nothing more.

No more dirty this year than any other, take it as you will.

If he was clean and now dirty, (10-15% improvement remember) he wouldn't haven't beaten vino by 2 seconds.

 

[Rip:30]

Trust me...

These guys are doing creatine.

Read the stuff it does for endurance.

http://www.affordablesupplements.co.uk/San+V12+Turbo.html

http://www.affordablesupplements.co.uk/Creatine.3/Creatine+Monohydrates.15/Tri+Matrix+Evolution.2699.html


This is the stuff there using.

When I say Sagan uses creatine, I KNOW THAT FOR A FACT.

NO.

You can't site a claim that the manufacturer of the supplement makes about it's purported benefit. MAJOR CONFLICT OF INTEREST. There is no validation, FDA approval, or peer review of any of the garbage in those links.

Just because an explanation makes "sense" doesn't make it true.

They make this claim in order to make you buy their product. Oldest trick in the book dude.

 

[Ferminal]

If Evans has increased his functional power to weight by more than 1% this year I would be surprised. 2 results, timed an uphill sprint where he learnt the year before, and took a good line into a corner. No more attacking than ever before, seems to have learned tactics, nothing more.

No more dirty this year than any other, take it as you will.

If he was clean and now dirty, (10-15% improvement remember) he wouldn't haven't beaten vino by 2 seconds.

+1, exactly.

 

[auscyclefan94]

I am still failing to see this amazing improvement you keep going on about. Evans has won 2 races this year, is sitting where everyone expected him to be in the Giro, and is where he has sat thereabouts in GT's over his whole career. The only difference is, no Contador, or Schlecks.

But his style, freedom and attitude of riding and being with bmc has freed him to let him blossom in the world of cycling.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

But his style, freedom and attitude of riding and being with bmc has freed him to let him blossom in the world of cycling.

That was such sentimental trite that I felt compelled to write a haiku:

Two wins in one year
Rainbow jerseys blossoming
Shower in success

Twee enough for ya?

 

[Green Tea]

NO.

You can't site a claim that the manufacturer of the supplement makes about it's purported benefit. MAJOR CONFLICT OF INTEREST. There is no validation, FDA approval, or peer review of any of the garbage in those links.

Just because an explanation makes "sense" doesn't make it true.

They make this claim in order to make you buy their product. Oldest trick in the book dude.

Then get left behind.

There is no latic acid build-up or pain in the legs increasing power outputs. Even the water retention increases are irrelevant.

Vino knows the deal.

 

[Ibanez]

But his style, freedom and attitude of riding and being with bmc has freed him to let him blossom in the world of cycling.

Ha! Evans the stylist.

He has been there or thereabouts for years, he's just managed a couple of wins this year. Good for him, but he is the same very very good but not champion rider he has always been.

 

[locker]

Simple.
Evans has not shown any big improvement over what he has done for years.
He chased and was beaten by proven dopers.
Dopers busted leaving Evans higher on the ladder.
Dopers return (no doubt more cautious to be clean/er) and their levels dropped.
A number of other front running GT riders have not targeted the Giro.
Evans has changed to a team where he is happier.
Evans won the Worlds by being smart and is currently racing with that same manner.
Evans has not always been a 'wheelsucker' (as many would say) and all of a sudden turned into a catch me if you can rider.
He has never been labeled as being half suspect.

Some like him, some don't, but it sure seams like he has gained at least a little more fan base (or respect) from some of the dislikers this year.

Finally someone with some sense,