[Suspended] CNF Clinic Award: Best Clean Rider of 2013

[Samson777]

Anders Lund

 

[ralphbert]

Taylor Phinney. No way you can dope with hair like that.

 

[martinvickers]

I've a fondness for track, and hope in my heart, so I'll say Martyn Irvine!

But for proper roadies, best of those I trust is Dan Martin

 

[The Hitch]

But for proper roadies, best of those I trust is Dan Martin

You don't trust Froome, Quintana, Rodriguez, Nibali, Sagan etc?

 

[the sceptic]

You don't trust Froome, Quintana, Rodriguez, Nibali, Sagan etc?

Its a festivus miracle!

 

[DirtyWorks]

anybody care to elaborate why Daniel Martin is likely clean?

Goofy smile only a mother could love?
Not offending the world at a victims of sexual violence gala?
JV, "We only admit to doping after the SOL kick in?"
A collective, "Who is that guy up the road with our potential winner?"

To be fair, however it came to pass that Ryder attacked, it was THE perfect setup for Martin's win and a bold attempt that worked out for once. No kidding.

 

[zlev11]

Phinney, Talansky, Mollema

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Jicee Peraud on Mont Faron and Col d'Eze.

 

[gooner]

anybody care to elaborate why Daniel Martin is likely clean?

If you think otherwise why don't you go into the appropriate thread and explain. This isn't the first time you said it without substantiating on it.

it's gonna be fun also seeing posters who in other threads demand hard evidence before calling out a performance post names in here without any shred of evidence of cleanliness.

kittel's lie detector test was a nice try though.

I will go with Dan Martin here and I gave reasons why to yourself before.

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=1357865&postcount=1522

 

[RobbieCanuck]

Svein Tuft of Canada, 169th and last in the TDF

 

[martinvickers]

You don't trust Froome, Quintana, Rodriguez, Nibali, Sagan etc?

No. I'm entirely agnostic on all those riders. I have hunches, but they aren't worth a pitcher of spit, warm or otherwise.

Quintana is closest to trust, based on type of rider he is, but domestic colombian cycling is riddled, so who can tell.

Indeed, my trust of Martin is itself impressionistic, and probably biased by national feeling - On basically the right team, right background, right attitude. None of it proof. But I just trust him, for some reason. Could be wrong.

 

[martinvickers]

Its a festivus miracle!

Care to stick to the topic, and lay off he ad hominem?

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Anders Lund

not even a TUE puffer, just once?

"look, I'm going to race clean this year"
"Well, then you don't have a job"
"So be it"
"Fine, see you at the Fondos"

 

[jsem94]

My vote goes to:
Random mediocre continental team rider.

 

[sniper]

If you think otherwise why don't you go into the appropriate thread and explain. This isn't the first time you said it without substantiating on it.



I will go with Dan Martin here and I gave reasons why to yourself before.

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=1357865&postcount=1522

fair enough.
my main problem is with his gratuite public statements about how clean Garmin are. Not a word on transparency, not a word on the possibility that other teams might be cheating Garmin.
Just the usual crap from Martin.
'I'm so happy to be riding with Garmin, we're clean, hesjedal is clean'. blabla. Sounds hollow, and you don't expect such hollow statements from a rider who does everything to win clean, knowing how difficult it is to compete with dopers. You'd expect some serious reflection on the very issue of riding clean in a sport that is/has been drained with doping, but nothing of the sort from Martin.

 

[BigMac]

Really surprised that Rui Costa has not been mentioned.

The guy uses the BikePure bracelet

 

[TheGame]

Marianne Vos

Bike Pure "Role Model", best rider in the world. 1+1=2

 

[burning]

Juan Jose Lobato, TDF Stage 6

Guys like Horner and Dawg are definitely clean though

 

[the sceptic]

If you think otherwise why don't you go into the appropriate thread and explain. This isn't the first time you said it without substantiating on it.



I will go with Dan Martin here and I gave reasons why to yourself before.

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=1357865&postcount=1522

so to sum up:

early promise: clean
no big leap: clean
outspoken against doping: clean

on the other hand

no early promise: not sure, need more evidence
huge leap and late career transformation: doesnt prove anything
in love with dopers: meaningless

Duly noted and archived in my records.

 

[GuyIncognito]

so to sum up:

early promise: clean
no big leap: clean
outspoken against doping: clean

on the other hand

no early promise: not sure, need more evidence
huge leap and late career transformation: doesnt prove anything
in love with dopers: meaningless

Duly noted and archived in my records.

If you notice the conclusions of last year's study by Horvath et al, it's actually that dirty athletes are the ones that say there's no doping, while clean ones tend to say 'it's f***ed up, there's a lot of doping out there'

 

[sublimit]

Going with a sprinter here with either the Gorilla, Cav or Bouhanni. GC clean riders possibly a kid like Pinot other than that who knows

 

[sniper]

If you notice the conclusions of last year's study by Horvath et al

thanks for this. Mere common sense suggests that is correct.
Do you have a link or a reference to that study?

clean ones tend to say 'it's f***ed up, there's a lot of doping out there'

Indeed that's what you'd expect clean riders to say, and we never hear it.
(well, of course early-carreer wiggo said things in that direction.)
This is mainly why i don't believe in anybody at sky or garmin.
You never hear them complain about doping.
Only hear them praising how clean their team and the new generation is.
Not even in 2009 did we hear Garmin complain. Go figure.

it's actually that dirty athletes are the ones that say there's no doping

makes sense.

 

[ebandit]

awesome

Really surprised that Rui Costa has not been mentioned.

The guy uses the BikePure bracelet

awesome........such a tiny device...yet it can deflect so much evil...may the force be with you

there are so many riders that I hope are clean................

Mark L

 

[mewmewmew13]

I vote this the Most Cynical Thread..

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

No candidates. You name them and I'll start the poll.
This is for consistent riders throughout the season, unlike the Clean Performance award.

Then it should be Froome...