Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Lequack]

He got second in PR in 2021. If he has very good legs then maybe he can be helpful in creating some tactical advantage (i.e. breakaway forcing Pog's rivals to work more than him).

Yes they definitely need to try some tactics, it's not like Flanders when he can ride away. Send Vermeersch in the break and make others chase.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I'm yet to see who is gonna follow him after 5 hours of a full gas race. Maybe 3 or riders.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I'm yet to see who is gonna follow him after 5 hours of a full gas race. Maybe 3 or riders.

3 riders are enough. Even 1 of them is likely to beat him at the line. He needs something extra.

 

[jono]

I'm yet to see who is gonna follow him after 5 hours of a full gas race. Maybe 3 or riders.

The group at Glasgow '23 is probably a good starting point for who could follow.

 

[Barkintheeye]

He got second in PR in 2021. If he has very good legs then maybe he can be helpful in creating some tactical advantage (i.e. breakaway forcing Pog's rivals to work more than him).

FW was the only of the Belgians that could give MVDP some sort of challenge at the Gravel WC in Leuven last year. Then again when MVDP put the hammer down he couldn't respond but he was strong and came in as a solid number two. Alpecin cannot let him go away.

 

[Peyroteo94]

The group at Glasgow '23 is probably a good starting point for who could follow.

Yeah, I agree.

 

[scribers]

„I think it's obvious that Van der Poel has to be number one, not just because he won last year, but because he's a much better classics rider than Tadej Pogacar, there's no doubt about that”. WTF is he talking about ?

Trying to play the psyops game. MVPs camp is claiming the dude is still sick.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Trying to play the psyops game. MVPs camp is claiming the dude is still sick.

Their confidence went out the window after the last Poggenheimer in Kwaremont

 

[scribers]

I forgot to add the better play is to go on talking about how much better pogi could be at classics if they invested more into the discipline

 

[Barkintheeye]

After two solid wins at RVV over Van der Poel even the most devout fans must admit that Pog is the greatest rider of this generation. He might not be able to challenge the best at CX or MTB but in every road race he is the main protagonist, from GTs to one day classics of every kind (maybe with the exceptions of races such as Ghent Wevelgem). On the road MVDP is less versatile.

There is a significant chance (risk) that Pog wins P-R. It looks to be dry, hence not overly technical, and with the help of his team making it a superhard race Pog could probably go alone from Orchies and possibly even earlier (Arenberg?). It would not surprise should that happen but I wouldn't like it to play out that way. A sprint between MVDP, Pedersen, Ganna and Pog would be ideal in that order.

ps. amazing that in the 80s average speed was around 38 km/h. Now they're over 45 km/h

 

[scribers]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1910640178240069644

View: https://x.com/teamemiratesuae/status/1910640178240069644?s=46&t=X4NqNG7J5ZQ-MxPOi53ECQ

 

[Peyroteo94]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1910640178240069644

View: https://x.com/teamemiratesuae/status/1910640178240069644?s=46&t=X4NqNG7J5ZQ-MxPOi53ECQ

Beautiful! Nothing like PR!!

 

[Peyroteo94]

After two solid wins at RVV over Van der Poel even the most devout fans must admit that Pog is the greatest rider of this generation. He might not be able to challenge the best at CX or MTB but in every road race he is the main protagonist, from GTs to one day classics of every kind (maybe with the exceptions of races such as Ghent Wevelgem). On the road MVDP is less versatile.

There is a significant chance (risk) that Pog wins P-R. It looks to be dry, hence not overly technical, and with the help of his team making it a superhard race Pog could probably go alone from Orchies and possibly even earlier (Arenberg?). It would not surprise should that happen but I wouldn't like it to play out that way. A sprint between MVDP, Pedersen, Ganna and Pog would be ideal in that order.

ps. amazing that in the 80s average speed was around 38 km/h. Now they're over 45 km/h

Yeah baby! Give me a 90 km solo!!

 

[Lorzenz08]

D - 48 hours

 

[Peyroteo94]

Dry and windy weather! Perfect conditions for a lovely PR!

 

[James M]

After two solid wins at RVV over Van der Poel even the most devout fans must admit that Pog is the greatest rider of this generation. He might not be able to challenge the best at CX or MTB but in every road race he is the main protagonist, from GTs to one day classics of every kind (maybe with the exceptions of races such as Ghent Wevelgem). On the road MVDP is less versatile.

There is a significant chance (risk) that Pog wins P-R. It looks to be dry, hence not overly technical, and with the help of his team making it a superhard race Pog could probably go alone from Orchies and possibly even earlier (Arenberg?). It would not surprise should that happen but I wouldn't like it to play out that way. A sprint between MVDP, Pedersen, Ganna and Pog would be ideal in that order.

ps. amazing that in the 80s average speed was around 38 km/h. Now they're over 45 km/h

Exactly. I love MvdP, but it's not hard to admit someone is just better, especially when it's this obvious and always was obvious entering this year nevertheless. There's no shame in that for MvdP, who is one of the best ever in RVV.
A doesn't necessarily need to mean B.

 

[James M]

In Roubaix, however, MvdP is the main man to beat on paper, mainly because we don't know to what extent the unfavorable terrain will impact Pogi.

But I still wouldn't be surprised like I think some might be to see him ride away from most. I won't—the data the absolute maximum wattage he showed on Cipressa at the front, breaking the wind, is absolutely ludicrous.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Dry and windy weather! Perfect conditions for a lovely PR!

Well, it will rain overnight to Sunday and there may be local showers during the race as well, so it won‘t be quite as dry.

 

[Peyroteo94]

In Roubaix, however, MvdP is the main man to beat on paper, mainly because we don't know to what extent the unfavorable terrain will impact Pogi.

But I still wouldn't be surprised like I think some might be to see him ride away from most. I won't—the data the absolute maximum wattage he showed on Cipressa at the front, breaking the wind, is absolutely ludicrous.

I will be shocked if MVP is able to drop Pogacar (without crashes)

 

[Peyroteo94]

Well, it will rain overnight to Sunday and there may be local showers during the race as well, so it won‘t be quite as dry.

It is a small chance of rain

 

[scribers]

Yeah baby! Give me a 90 km solo!!

I'm all about modesty. 260k solo! Shot out like a cannon at the start

 

[jono]

FW was the only of the Belgians that could give MVDP some sort of challenge at the Gravel WC in Leuven last year. Then again when MVDP put the hammer down he couldn't respond but he was strong and came in as a solid number two. Alpecin cannot let him go away.

... of the Belgians who weren't obviously racing for MVDP in that race.

 

[Barkintheeye]

... of the Belgians who weren't obviously racing for MVDP in that race.

Yes GW was racing for MVDP instead for Belgium but I don’t think it really mattered. It was an odd showing and I guess Stuyven didn’t appreciate it yet FW and MVDP were stronger than the rest

 

[Peyroteo94]

I'm all about modesty. 260k solo! Shot out like a cannon at the start

Now more serious. He will give us a show on Aremberg! If he doesn't crash until there.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Now more serious. He will give us a show on Aremberg! If he doesn't crash until there.

At least to have a nice photo of attacking in Arenberg forest while wearing the rainbow jersey! Screw the final result.