Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[YavorD]

What Pogacar should be angry about is seeing his teammates win every one-week race except the UAE Tour.
This year, he has had to bring forward his debut to do that *** race.

His season should´ve started at Strade Bianche like last year.
For a one-week race that they have to win to help him and it's the only one they haven't won these 3 years.

I think they've wanted to show their golden goose in the home race anyway.

 

[Peyroteo94]

What Pogacar should be angry about is seeing his teammates win every one-week race except the UAE Tour.
This year, he has had to bring forward his debut to do that *** race.

His season should´ve started at Strade Bianche like last year.
For a one-week race that they have to win to help him and it's the only one they haven't won these 3 years.

Next year, Ayuso will probably race there. Race is perfect for him.
You are too worried about him doing AGR and FW. He already gave up on E3 and GW in order to perform in AGR and FW.
In 2023, he was on his way to win the Ardennes treble and he did a lot more races in March.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I think they've wanted to show their golden goose in the home race anyway.

They wanted to win and Pogacar is the world champion so a great opportunity to show the jersey.

 

[Cycling111]

I think they've wanted to show their golden goose in the home race anyway.

Pogacar wanted to show his jersey in the classics, not in the desert.

As soon as I saw they didn't win the race last year, I assumed he'd have to do it this year, even if he hadn't won the world championship.

 

[YavorD]

Pogacar wanted to show his jersey in the classics, not in the desert.

As soon as I saw they didn't win the race last year, I assumed he'd have to do it this year, even if he hadn't won the world championship.

They would want to show off the rainbow jersey in their home race anyway.

I didn't like that particular peace in his schedule either, but it's hard to get away.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Pogacar wanted to show his jersey in the classics, not in the desert.

As soon as I saw they didn't win the race last year, I assumed he'd have to do it this year, even if he hadn't won the world championship.

Sheiks don't care about classics. UAE Tour is their second biggest goal!

 

[Peyroteo94]

They would want to show off the rainbow jersey in their home race anyway.

I didn't like that particular peace in his schedule either, but it's hard to get away.

Maybe next year, they send Almeida or Ayuso there. Both would win this year.

 

[Cycling111]

Sheiks don't care about classics. UAE Tour is their second biggest goal!

If they had won the previous two years, he wouldn't have had to go.

His teammates win in all the stage races, but not the one they should have

 

[Peyroteo94]

If they had won the previous two years, he wouldn't have had to go.

His teammates win in all the stage races, but not the one they should have

Remco went there and Yates fell in the other edition.

 

[Cycling111]

Remco went there and Yates fell in the other edition.

Yes, but McNulty and Vine, who have won mountain stages, failed in Jebel.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Yes, but McNulty and Vine, who have won mountain stages, failed in Jebel.

Seriously, who the hell relies on McNulty and Vine to win a stage race? They are bad and for me 2 riders UAE need to not renew their contract. They are receiving a lot and don't perform.

 

[YavorD]

If they had won the previous two years, he wouldn't have had to go.

No, he would probably have to go showing off the WC jersey.
No way in hell they wouldn't want to show the WC jersey in their home race.
And that's understandable to be honest.

 

[Peyroteo94]

No, he would probably have to go showing me off the WC jersey.
No way in hell they wouldn't want to show the WC jersey in their home race.
And that's understandable to be honest.

Yeah but let's hope it is the last time. It is cringe to see Pogacar in a break just to not suffer from detraining. UAE is a rich country, why they don't create artificial climbs?

 

[Cycling111]

Seriously, who the hell relies on McNulty and Vine to win a stage race? They are bad and for me 2 riders UAE need to not renew their contract. They are receiving a lot and don't perform.

McNulty wins in Croatia and Vine wins two stages in Coppi-Bartali
UAE seems to be Astana, competing in small races for wins and points.

 

[Peyroteo94]

McNulty wins in Croatia and Vine wins two stages in Coppi-Bartali
UAE seems to be Astana, competing in small races for wins and points.

McNulty is a very good Time triallist but that's it. He is scheduled to race AGR and I'm almost sure he will be gone before the 200km mark

 

[hayneplane]

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Nys is a fantastic talent but such comments from a teammate are very unhelpful as they increase the weight of public opinion expectation on him to an unfair level.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Nys is a fantastic talent but such comments from a teammate are very unhelpful as they increase the weight of public opinion expectation on him to an unfair level.

Yup, this kid can be really in great shape but putting him on par with Pogacar... it's too much! Specially since he is talking about AGR and not FW (when I really think he has a shot).

 

[MerkantilMerch]

I think they are just fishing for attention, I wouldnt put much weight into this.

Everyone is throwing Pogacar name because he is basically the reference. It gets way more attention to say " Oh he can hold his own against Pogacar " versus " Oh he can fight for the win at X race "

 

[houtdffan]

Remco being this good is not bad for Pogacar. Not talking about Ardennes (because it is more difficult for Pogacar to win), I'm talking more about getting an ally in MSR and probably RVV in order to beat MVP.

If Remco goes to MSR next year, just put Pomieana between Cipressa and Poggio and include La Manie

Let the aliens battle it out for the win. Don't even need to pretend sprinters have a chance

 

[Peyroteo94]

If Remco goes to MSR next year, just put Pomieana between Cipressa and Poggio and include La Manie

Let the aliens battle it out for the win. Don't even need to pretend sprinters have a chance

Poor MVP. He would quit and go to altitude training just like his friend Wout.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I think they are just fishing for attention, I wouldnt put much weight into this.

Everyone is throwing Pogacar name because he is basically the reference. It gets way more attention to say " Oh he can hold his own against Pogacar " versus " Oh he can fight for the win at X race "

And why? What do they win in getting more attention and pressure to Nys?

 

[Peyroteo94]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE068GN7p0Q

I don't know how much but this bike is lighter than the V4 and can save you 9 watts at 50 kph.

 

[Cycling111]

Remco being this good is not bad for Pogacar. Not talking about Ardennes (because it is more difficult for Pogacar to win), I'm talking more about getting an ally in MSR and probably RVV in order to beat MVP.

Why does Pogacar need Remco at RVV if he´s won the last two times he´s competed in?

In San Remo, it wouldn't solve anything. Pogacar broke the race at the Cipressa.
In a sprint against Van der Poel, it doesn't matter if Remco is there.

 

[Roku]

Think it's time for another update on Pogi's Palmares. Now he has won 8 monuments (3 different races) and has podiumed the other two. This summer he should get his tally to 100 pro wins.

Tadej Pogacar "Whole Calendar" Slam Watchlist (also considering podiums)

1. Grand Tours:
Tour de France X4 (2020, 2021, 2024, 2025), 2nd (2022, 2023)
Giro de Italia: X (2024)
Vuelta a España: 3rd (2019)

2. Monuments:
Milano San Remo: 3rd (2024, 2025)
Ronde Van Vlaanderen: X2 (2023, 2025)
Paris Roubaix: 2nd (2025)
Liege Bastogne Liege: X3 (2021, 2024, 2025), 3rd (2020)
Giro di Lombardia: X4 (2021, 2022, 2023, 2024)

3. World Championships and Olympic Races:
Olympic Road Race: 3rd (Tokyo 2020 -held in 2021-)
Olympic Time Trial: TBA
World Championship Road Race: X (2024), 3rd (2023)
World Championship Time Trial: -

4. One Week Races:
París Nice: X (2023)
Tirreno-Adriático: X2 (2021, 2022)
Volta a Catalunya: X (2024)
Itzulia: 3rd (2021)
Tour de Romandie: TBA
Criterium du Dauphine: X (2025)
Tour de Suisse: TBA

5. Other Significant Races:
Omloop Het Volk / Het Nieuwsblad: TBA
UAE Tour (sigh): X3 (2021, 2022, 2025)
Strade Bianche: X3 (2022, 2024, 2025)
E3 Harelbeke: 3rd (2023)
Gent Wevelgem: TBA
Brabantse Pijl: TBA
Amstel Gold Race: X (2023), 2nd (2025)
Fleche Wallone: X2 (2023, 2025)
San Sebastian: -
Giro dell Emilia: X (2024), 2nd (2022, 2023)
París - Tours: TBA

6. Stage Wins:
Giro de Italia Stage Wins: 6
Tour de France Stage Wins: 21
Vuelta a España Stage Wins: 3
Total GT Stage Wins: 30
Total Pro Wins: 104

7. "Minor" Accolades:
x2 GP Montréal (2022, 2024), x2 Tour of Slovenia (2021, 2022), Tre Valli Varesine (2022), Tour of California (2019), Volta ao Algarve (2019), x2 Slovenian ITT Championships (2019, 2023), Slovenian Road Race Championships (2023).

Notes:
(1) "Other Significant Races" is a non-comprehensive list of races outside the well established and common accepted three categories (GT, Monuments, Seven "Historically/Traditional" One Week Races)
(2) "Minor Accolades" include another non-comprehensive list of other races won that might be missed by some users.
The aim is not to argue about which are the most relevant races but to keep track of which I feel are the most prestigious events regardless of the current official category.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Why does Pogacar need Remco at RVV if he´s won the last two times he´s competed in?

In San Remo, it wouldn't solve anything. Pogacar broke the race at the Cipressa.
In a sprint against Van der Poel, it doesn't matter if Remco is there.

It does matter to help him pushing a higher pace. Maybe not Remco but Quickstep working hard on Cipressa will help Pogacar.
In RVV maybe you are right but Pogacar would have another team to make the race harder.