Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Bombarolo]

I think there were different conditions. At the Pdb 3 riders beat Pantani record and Landa was near the same. With all due respect, Remco and Landa aren't as good as Pantani. Plus they almost did a MTT with Jorgenson and Jonas who just launched Pocagar.

Pantani record was nothing special, but Remco still did a top 20 performance of all time which isn’t normal.

 

[rafa92]

So according to a post race interview that leadout from Narvaez wasn't planned and Tadej's microphone wasn't working so he just went with it, implying he didn't want to go that early on the climb.

I was wondering about that, even after the attack he continued to mess with his earphones

 

[Tanakka]

people will say look at the time gaps, meh. great but not best performance of pogacar.

I don't have a strong conviction either way, but:



1:11 ahead after 2km?!

That's a crazy pace and obviously not the best/ideal distribution of one's effort.
Let's remember that as cool it might to beat Riis' "record", the real priority still is/was to get Vingo off of your wheel and therefore gap him.

Narvaez' hammer was very useful in doing so, but approaching the first 2km like that is clearly not conductive to score a PB.
Though it wasn't a MTT and Pog isn't actually worried about anybody not named Vingo, so...

 

[snipeheem]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945893839685726226

View: https://x.com/Na1chaca/status/1945893839685726226

 

[BubbaChuck]

looking it more closelly,its pretty crazy performance.but still,if pog on his game,shirt is closed and he drops riis.

 

[rafa92]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945893839685726226

View: https://x.com/Na1chaca/status/1945893839685726226

not Pdb or Isola level but better then pla d'adet

 

[Cycling111]

The difference from last year I think has been in the crash.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945872624308941187

View: https://x.com/Twitugal/status/1945872624308941187

 

[Krzysztof_O]

The difference from last year I think has been in the crash.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945872624308941187

View: https://x.com/Twitugal/status/1945872624308941187

20+ stages is really the elite of the Tour and he actually has a shot at the record.

 

[Peyroteo94]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945885317673755126

View: https://x.com/WattsinCycling/status/1945885317673755126


I think the heat took its toll but still an amazing performance.

This was a brutal stage. Matteo Jorgenson will agree with me

 

[solo80k]

20+ stages is really the elite of the Tour and he actually has a shot at the record.

He can catch Hainault next year, bizarre....

 

[Brullnux]

Two more Tours and he will hold the record for most stage wins.

 

[BubbaChuck]

narvaez stronger than yates,name 1.

 

[BubbaChuck]

almeida has to be fuming at home,could be second.

 

[Cycling111]

1996 was even quite tactical until Riis launched. Ofc it was also after a pan flat stage if I remember correctly.

If you've ridden a bike from the 90's you'll notice the difference, it's harder to move. Requires greater physical effort

The Riis and Indurain times (1.90) are insane with those bikes.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

Two more Tours and he will hold the record for most stage wins.

3 more this Tour, and then 6+6 sounds hard to achieve. Even for Pogacar. But not out of the question.

 

[Cycling111]

almeida has to be fuming at home,could be second.

Almeida is one of those cyclists who in GT is always left with the "word could".

Instead Simon has 2 GT. Hesjedal defeated Purito, being Purito the favorite and being another cyclist who never won GT.

There are cyclists who because of the way they ride, have more accidents or lose more time. This year had bad luck, but I always say that when the bad luck is in several GTs is that that cyclist has a problem to win a GT and either he is not going to get it or as much he will win one suffering.
Ayuso could be another one. Instead Lipowitz is likely to win a GT before Ayuso.

 

[fenns]

3 more this Tour, and then 6+6 sounds hard to achieve. Even for Pogacar. But not out of the question.

3 more this Tour is surely the low end of estimates

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

3 more this Tour is surely the low end of estimates

Still. Even if he wins 8 stages, which should be the maximum this year he could achieve, it would still mean he'd have to win 4+6 or 5+3 or something similar. But it's not impossible, and that alone is really incredible.

 

[Jack_89]

I saw the race again: kudos to Narvaez. Overall he did a great stage, but that kind of final effort in a terrain not his own...was simply magnificent, because you expect the big guns doing well in their habitats, not outside. Same for Wout in the 2022.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I saw the race again: kudos to Narvaez. Overall he did a great stage, but that kind of final effort in a terrain not his own...was simply magnificent, because you expect the big guns doing well in their habitats. Same for Wout in the 2022.

Pogacar can attack so early that hilly specialists (Narvaez + Wellens) are enough to pace the bottom of the climb (and job is done).

 

[rokovski]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945900812460233014

View: https://x.com/itvcycling/status/1945900812460233014?t=xQgsqQbk4HgoJ5L0hYbiuA&s=19


😅

 

[Monsi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945900812460233014

View: https://x.com/itvcycling/status/1945900812460233014?t=xQgsqQbk4HgoJ5L0hYbiuA&s=19


😅

That early hard leadout might not have been the original plan but that was the key to blowing Jonas up earlier and causing Pogi to gain more than 2 minutes on him. It ended up being much better.

 

[Miha81]

Pogacar did around 6.6 W/Kg. Nothing crazy

Heat and they went very hard from the start of the stage.

 

[Unchained]

I saw the race again: kudos to Narvaez. Overall he did a great stage, but that kind of final effort in a terrain not his own...was simply magnificent, because you expect the big guns doing well in their habitats, not outside. Same for Wout in the 2022.

Not mentioned much but yesterday when Pogacar was on the ground, in a second nature, Narvaez was one of 2 riders who paced him back.. Guy is really a team player, he looks to have good form, speed, legs and gives it all in support.

 

[Peyroteo94]

not Pdb or Isola level but better then pla d'adet

This time was almost a TT