Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Rou]

So why did he burned his team? Fear of Johansson in the break? I dont think so

Defensive pacing. 2 Vismas upfront.
I'm sure if a Rabobank rider was upfront he would have attacked for the stage.

 

[Bombarolo]

Always in complete control.
Pace by UAE was consistent but not very strong as there were still a lot of people in the yellow group, including guys like Healy. This means they didn’t push extremely hard like Visma did 2 days ago.
The easier the race the closer Vingegaard is to Pogacar.

 

[Monsi]

It was a sprint in the end so u expect him to drop jonas by a few meters. As i said before pog wasn't on his usual level today but he isn't exposed by it when his usual level is so much better than everyone & his team pacing hard all day also explains that they wanted to win the stage

As someone already mentioned, I think it's similar to a combination of the Steinhauser Giro stage win and Couillole. When Jonas attacked, it's definitely a high pace and he just eased to Jonas' wheel without even going out of the saddle.

 

[scribers]

Plus Arensman was really strong today. He was with a ton of former quality GC riders and went away from them.

 

[Cycling111]

Does not want be called "the cannibal" lol

Merckx was lucky enough to live in an era without social media. He was criticized for being a cannibal, but it wasn't like today, with so many people crying on social media. It's unbearable.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I don't believe Pogacar had a bad day on rainy conditions. Impossible.

 

[scribers]

He wants Arensmann to be that 1% of the peloton he sees after he retires.

This will be that Be Like Mike campaign. Be the 1%!

 

[Rou]

I don't believe Pogacar had a bad day on rainy conditions. Impossible.

When Pogacar has a bad day you see it on his face. It's obvious.
Today he dropped Jonas in the sprint without showing his teeth.

 

[yaco]

he could have won easily today, he decided to leave to the breakaway but why did he make his team work so much?

From the time Arensman attacked with Soler on front UAE lost 40 or 50 seconds to Arensman.

 

[Rou]

Just compare how Pog ends the stage and how Jonas ends the stage.

 

[Cycling111]

I don't believe Pogacar had a bad day on rainy conditions. Impossible.

I think the same. He looked very easy.

 

[Skalman]

Merckx was lucky enough to live in an era without social media. He was criticized for being a cannibal, but it wasn't like today, with so many people crying on social media. It's unbearable.

Agree, its a sport, the goal is to win, its crazy what makes people offended nowadays

 

[Pantani Attacks]

UAE and Pog pushed themselves enough to not detrain. When you see the likes of Sivakov and Politt salute the camera as they drop, you know they were within themselves.

 

[Kedjan]

I don't believe Pogacar had a bad day on rainy conditions. Impossible.

I say he had decent legs but not super, seems obvious to me. And why shouldn't he have a little bit less good legs at the end of a superhard stage, when he went deep two days in a row after a crash...

Even if legs aren't super Pog's level is still so high that Vinge can't really shake him.

 

[kingjr]

Merckx was lucky enough to live in an era without social media. He was criticized for being a cannibal, but it wasn't like today, with so many people crying on social media. It's unbearable.

Lucky? He got punched in the liver by a fan on a decisive stage of the Tour. I have yet to see that happen to Pogačar.

 

[yaf2]

Defensive pacing. 2 Vismas upfront.
I'm sure if a Rabobank rider was upfront he would have attacked for the stage.

Couldn't disagree more. If that was the case they would've stopped once they reached yates & kuss and also i believe any visma rider upfront isn't a concern for them anymore

 

[Rou]

Couldn't disagree more. If that was the case they would've stopped once they reached yates & kuss and also i believe any visma rider upfront isn't a concern for them anymore

But they stopped. Yates was soft pulling or you think he was trying all out?
Come on...
Soler was pulling crazy and when they caught the Vismas they slowed down.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Couldn't disagree more. If that was the case they would've stopped once they reached yates & kuss and also i believe any visma rider upfront isn't a concern for them anymore

Maybe UAE wanted to win the stage actually but without expanding too much energy by Pogacar. Arensman's acceleration on Peyresourde quickly increased the gap by over a minute (he was much stronger than the rest of the breakaway) meaning that UAE would have to go hard early on Superbagneres climb. As for the last climb UAE set a good pace but nothing crazy, it was never a preparation for Pog's attack.

 

[scribers]

If Pogi wanted the stage he would have had to start at the bottom alone when the gap wasn't closing with the team. So he just sat on to see if Arensman cracked.

Oddly enough vingo put in a couple of really strong attacks, which normally might have caused a counter attack, or rapid drop in Arensman's lead. Neither happened.

 

[Rou]

Last year on Couillole Pog got out of the saddle to close Vinge.
This year in Dauphine and Tour it's no longer needed.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I still think this gap is short and a Pogi's mistake can ruin his Tour

 

[Rou]

Anders Mielke asked Tadej this question:
'Was this the strongest Jonas so far?'
Pog blabbing about the past stages that Jonas was strong in the past stages also.
ROFL. He doesn't care anymore.
Translation: 'I would have left him on the road but they call me greedy.'

 

[Miha81]

I still think this gap is short and a Pogi's mistake can ruin his Tour

4min used to be a winning margin. What gap should he have, 10min? If he gets "I am dead, I am gone" moment or accident, no gap is gonna help.

 

[Peyroteo94]

6'

4min used to be a winning margin. What gap should he have, 10min? If he gets "I am dead, I am gone" moment or accident, no gap is gonna help.

 

[Lorzenz08]

I think he wanted to take it easy today