Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[CyclistAbi]

Imagine what Ayuso must be feeling, watching Lipo.

 

[Rou]

Imagine what Ayuso must be feeling, watching Lipo.

He should learn from Lipo.
Lipo is a young and humble guy who still calls Roglic the leader.

 

[CyclistAbi]

He should learn from Lipo.
Lipo is a young and humble guy who still calls Roglic the leader.

Yeah, no need to crucify Lipo, as leaders tend to eat last.

 

[scribers]

Acordding Matxin this bike is faster over 18 kph (only 300g more).

Ok. That's fine. But the bike has to be suitable for actual power delivery. And what I just said, for some reason Pogi likes the bike.

 

[scribers]

Yeah, no need to crucify Lipo

You just said something entirely different than what the quoted person said.

 

[CyclistAbi]

You just said something entirely different than what the quoted person said.

Did i? Different leaders style i guess. It comes with the age.

 

[hayneplane]

UAE don’t like to send their younger riders to 2 grand tours in the same season but Del Toro is flying. 5th win today in July alone.

If he has a points farming schedule plus maybe Canada WT one dayers if Pogacar goes to La Vuelta then he will Hirschi 2.0 the autumn schedule.

 

[CyclistAbi]

The problem UAE has all of them are flying and there are only 3 GTs per season.

 

[yaf2]

Van Aert says he doesn't understand why Pogacar would chase Jorgenson if he lost 30 minutes and that they don't have blacklists.

He has forgotten that they sent Benoot behind Pogcar on the Champs Elysees when he was 7 minutes behind and the Tour was over. LOL

I forgot that moment even as his fan but he the one who experienced it never forgets it. I have to say that was a disrespectful moment towards him. No gifts for visma never✊

 

[Cycling111]

im wondering if he is riding that aero bike for promotion or cause it is acctualy better cause he wasnt riding it in dauphine in moutains

I don't think Pogacar would risk his Tour for publicity.

And if it were for publicity, he's already used it at Hautacam and won, the publicity would be done, and he could ride a different bike.

 

[Cycling111]

I forgot that moment even as his fan but he the one who experienced it never forgets it. I have to say that was a disrespectful moment towards him. No gifts for visma never✊

Show it to Van Aert to refresh his memory.

 

[scribers]

Did i? Different leaders style i guess. It comes with the age.

Yes. They posted a positive comment about Lipo, and you turned it into a strong negative

 

[carolina]

Pogacar likes the bike so much, that he used it in the UAE Tour this year and then never used it again.

During the year only a few riders used the bike. Yates, Oliveira brothers and sometimes Wellens.

Every cycling related brand uses the Tour to release new stuff. All of a sudden every UAE rider starts using the Y1RS... Of course is promotion. It's clear as day.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Yes. They posted a positive comment about Lipo, and you turned it into a strong negative

In response to Ayuso, on where we all know it was a strong negative. I just balanced it out. Full circle.

 

[yaco]

Its quite obvious. If you have the opportunity, try and watch yesterday's stage from around the crash until the hilly part, Pog was policing Jorgenson for some reason. In the end it helped Wellens when the stage, but..

I think it was obvious, although Pogacar has a perfect alibi for chasing Jorgenson. If Jorgenson is allowed into the group he's likely to outride Wellens on the final climb in combination with Campaenarts and VWA, therefore reducing Wellens chance of winning the stage.

 

[SHAD0W93]

It was Nathan Van Hooydonck. Also, nobody "sent" him after Pogi, and he was allowed to cooperate. He just couldn't, according to his own words. Pogi was going too fast.

Pogi is definitely more likely to have a blacklist, it's pretty clear he does actually. Always complaining about Visma for some reason. It's not becoming for such a big champion, he has nothing to fear from Visma. Just shrug them off like they're a bunch of mosquitoes (or indeed bees), don't whine about them all the time. And don't obsess over someone like Jorgenson, clearly not half as talented as you are.

Yes since Visma were so polite in their comments and actions towards Pogacar from 2022-2024 TdF stage 15.

 

[theyoungest]

Show it to Van Aert to refresh his memory.

I'm not sure what the thinking is here in Pogacar fanland, but you're not allowed to jump after him when he attacks?

 

[theyoungest]

Yes since Visma were so polite in their comments and actions towards Pogacar from 2022-2024 TdF stage 15.

The only time when a Jumbo/Visma person has been what you could call disrespectful towards Pogi was when Dumoulin called him a "miner", but even that was sort of a backhanded compliment about how fast he still was despite his abysmal position on the TT bike. Other than that, can't think of a single instant. But refresh my memory.

 

[Cycling111]

Yes since Visma were so polite in their comments and actions towards Pogacar from 2022-2024 TdF stage 15.

There's collective amnesia; they don't remember what Jorgenson said last year about Pogacar.

And it's so absurd to make Jorgenson the victim. He also spoke badly of Movistar when it was the only team that gave him a chance when no one wanted him.

 

[Unchained]

UAE don’t like to send their younger riders to 2 grand tours in the same season but Del Toro is flying. 5th win today in July alone.

If he has a points farming schedule plus maybe Canada WT one dayers if Pogacar goes to La Vuelta then he will Hirschi 2.0 the autumn schedule.

Del Toro is getting a very, very strange, bizarre early education!! He went to Giro in support of Juan Ayuso, found himself as the accidental leader, went to Tour of Austria in support of native, Felix Grosschartner who couldn't keep a wheel.. Felix couldn't follow Rafal Majka or Del Toro as they set pace and finally, Felix and team told Del Toro to just race. Pogacar will likely be in flying form if indeed he decides to race in the Vuelta, Because of the way Pogacar races it's likely a really beneficial experience for Del Toro to race with him..certainly Pogacar's power creates ample opportunities. Look no further than Wellens winning yesterday.. Pog position has majority following his every move and if Wellens jumps majority of UAE don't react and join, Pogacar's behavior is the predictor , same thing will happen for Del Toro and others in Tadej is again dominant in Spain.. Del Toro races much better with a set plan and non leadership role.

 

[Cycling111]

It was Nathan Van Hooydonck. Also, nobody "sent" him after Pogi, and he was allowed to cooperate. He just couldn't, according to his own words. Pogi was going too fast.

Pogi is definitely more likely to have a blacklist, it's pretty clear he does actually. Always complaining about Visma for some reason. It's not becoming for such a big champion, he has nothing to fear from Visma. Just shrug them off like they're a bunch of mosquitoes (or indeed bees), don't whine about them all the time. And don't obsess over someone like Jorgenson, clearly not half as talented as you are.

Visma is the only team that doesn't give orders over the radio and doesn't talk about Pogacar on the bus .
That move wasn't inspired by Van Hooydonck, it was a team thing.

Watch the documentary they made after the 2020 Tour. They're obsessed. But after all the *** they've thrown at Pogacar, some people are surprised that Pogacar doesn't tolerate them.

 

[yaf2]

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One of a kind! 🐐

 

[CyclistAbi]

One of a kind! 🐐

Yeah, said that, most people do tend to learn to walk too.

 

[scribers]

GWAT

Greatest walker all time

 

[Peyroteo94]

Del Toro is getting a very, very strange, bizarre early education!! He went to Giro in support of Juan Ayuso, found himself as the accidental leader, went to Tour of Austria in support of native, Felix Grosschartner who couldn't keep a wheel.. Felix couldn't follow Rafal Majka or Del Toro as they set pace and finally, Felix and team told Del Toro to just race. Pogacar will likely be in flying form if indeed he decides to race in the Vuelta, Because of the way Pogacar races it's likely a really beneficial experience for Del Toro to race with him..certainly Pogacar's power creates ample opportunities. Look no further than Wellens winning yesterday.. Pog position has majority following his every move and if Wellens jumps majority of UAE don't react and join, Pogacar's behavior is the predictor , same thing will happen for Del Toro and others in Tadej is again dominant in Spain.. Del Toro races much better with a set plan and non leadership role.

Del Toro will be a great dom for Pogacar next year.