Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[scribers]

I would absolutely love to see Ganna, Wout, Tim Melier, MVP or Tadej ride one of Sean Kelly's old bikes w GEL280s and those aluminum foil feeling French frames!!
992 and 979 !!! Oh please Tadej!!

He’ll. Put them on whatever Riis was riding and see what happens. lol

 

[scribers]

A shame there is a headwind on Ventoux. I know he will attack but it would be smart to just follow Vingegaard.

A blessing. Less reckless attacking and more conservative winning equals the vuelta !

 

[scribers]

Could be big in MSR and LBL with Wellens and Narvaez. If he wants to, I think Almeida would be a good assist in those races as well after watching the beginning of the Tour this year.

Almeida is boss in 1 week races. That’s become his bread and butter. UAE likes the wins too

 

[scribers]

I'm not sure what the thinking is here in Pogacar fanland, but you're not allowed to jump after him when he attacks?

Jumbo just dominated him for three weeks!

 

[Monsi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1947391389915836475

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Means we will have a long range solo from pog before chalet reynard

I think Pog will attack between 10 to 8 or 7 km left where it's still in the forest section and is still steep.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

"Uh, Mateo, your leader is in the back group, maybe you all want to calm things down, eh?"

 

[Oldman]

Probably the easiest answers are different seat posts, different chain and seat stays..if you ever have ridden some of these bikes majority of them really suck..and longer seat post is way more comfortable, night and day.. Aero seat posts suck..and most aero and TT bikes suck..they are so stiff just beat out your soul and dental work.. And with large cross section wheels, 50s and above bikes can be brutal, harsh is an understatement. Colnago V4 and V5Rs are way easier to ride and don't beat you up, these guys would never put up with any feel like an old Vitus, were you can physically see and feel bottom bracket shell moving when you pedal!! You feel the bike flexing before you even ride it!! So that's the definition of a noodle.. And other bikes from Cervelo and Cipollini with big tubes, stiff stays and aero seatposts are uncomfortable garbage for me personally.. And wheels above 45 for me are uncomfortable and energy and aerodynamic benefits are nullified by discomfort that comes with..
If UAE and Colnago have the the bikes dialed in, you have to assume they do.. You are getting aero- wattage benefits and riders feel like it's comfortable enough and not to heavy to be a liability on moderate climbing. I my assumption on that will possibly be disproved soon if Pogacar and others keep using and winning on a bike that was billed as an aero bike..
Tons of strange stuff has already happened this year with equipment.. @10k uphill time trial and guys come out using TT bikes, don't spend any time with arms in the skis and instead most of the time out on the handles which are same or similar width to regular road bike handlebars... I was puzzled..
I don't know what the feel is of the confluence of toptube, seatpost and then again the unconnected finish of what was the seattube, which Colnago has looking more like a partial rear fender on the Y1Rs..so maybe with all that's going on the bike feels complaint and comfortable.. Which is difficult always.. I personally hate all aero bikes I ridden because they are just too stiff, make me want old soft wheels with no to tire pressure..

I went from a seriously quick Felt f1 with 30cm tubulars to a more upright Colnago V2RS with a 30 front, 40 rear and tubed tires. Both with rim brakes. The Colnago is not as quick on acceleration or cornering as the Felt but much more comfortable. What UAE riders of average size ride has to be much more responsive than mine but more rigid steer tube to fork for disc brakes. Bigger guys we see in the Tour ride all kinds of combinations of frame size, seat posts, etc. What is aero for them on a standard frame is pretty ridable per reports from friends. Unless they're on a low budget team most of them could have a setup for each condition between wheels, rear derailleur length, varied cogsets and crank lengths. Seeing last year's Vuelta there was more than one contender riding single ring 12 speed with climbing gear ratios on those steep novelty MT finishes.
The Old Timers would probably think they'd gone to heaven to be able to ride a long 20% climb in the saddle! Modern racers definitely have choices.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

I remember when 53x39 up front and 11-23 in the rear were the norm, crazy

 

[scribers]

Bruyneel is adamant pogi will win the green jersey

 

[scribers]

Looking at tom danielsons analysis of the last stage. He says Vingo road 20km to bridge across. And only was able to because of Romero from Movistar. Yikes. What a terrible waste of energy and demoralizing at that

 

[AmRacer]

Looking at tom danielsons analysis of the last stage. He says Vingo road 20km to bridge across. And only was able to because of Romero from Movistar. Yikes. What a terrible waste of energy and demoralizing at that

Wasn't Lipo and the Bulls in the same group?

 

[Peyroteo94]

It's time!!! Poggenheimer on the menu baby! In the most beautiful and legendary climb in France!!!

 

[Peyroteo94]

Pogacar is clearly targetting this stage. A FTP test right there!

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[Cycling111]

Black bike?

Some media outlets are saying Ayuso could go to the Vuelta instead of Pogacar.

I hope there hasn't been any pressure from Matxin. This is the year Pogacar should go

 

[Peyroteo94]

Black bike?

Some media outlets are saying Ayuso could go to the Vuelta instead of Pogacar.

I hope there hasn't been any pressure from Matxin. This is the year Pogacar should go

Black bike is lighter.

 

[Rou]

Just saw that Jorgenson has added La Vuelta on his program.
Pog should go to bully him or let him breathe? LOL

Black bike?

Some media outlets are saying Ayuso could go to the Vuelta instead of Pogacar.

I hope there hasn't been any pressure from Matxin. This is the year Pogacar should go

Matxin nowadays is good at pushing Pog when he makes a bike change. He is not a factor.

 

[Rou]

Ayuso is on the farmers' schedule with some Canadian classics.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Ayuso is on the farmers' schedule with some Canadian classics.

That‘s been Pogačar‘s schedule more often than not, but I guess he‘s also just win-farming.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Just saw that Jorgenson has added La Vuelta on his program.
Pog should go to bully him or let him breathe? LOL

Matxin nowadays is good at pushing Pog when he makes a bike change. He is not a factor.

Visma is already building a good team around Vingegaard because there is no other chance Vingegaard will win the Vuelta if Pogacar is there.

 

[Rou]

That‘s been Pogačar‘s schedule more often than not, but I guess he‘s also just win-farming.

Pog didn't go to Burgos, Pologne and the prestigious Pueba Villafranca.

 

[yaf2]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1947566102826872845

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so what happens now to the colnago claimed "best all rounder bike" of v5rs? it hasn't featured on a single stage of this tdf (except polit)

 

[carolina]

I understand your point but they are willing to risk a TdF win just to promote a bike?

He has a 4 minutes advantage. What risk are they taking? They even got him a special version that weights less.

If he was sitting 2nd place, I bet you he would be using the V5RS.

 

[Peyroteo94]

He has a 4 minutes advantage. What risk are they taking? They even got him a special version that weights less.

If he was sitting 2nd place, I bet you he would be using the V5RS.

He was using the Y1Rs on Hautacam where he had a 1'17" gap.

 

[carolina]

He was using the Y1Rs on Hautacam where he had a 1'17" gap.

He had enough gap, that a heavier bike wouldn't be a problem.

Yes, the V5RS is a much better choice for the cobbles, but I still don't understand why he didn't change to the Y1RS for the Ardennes and for the Dauphiné.... if it's a better bike...

This will all become clear after the Tour. If he likes the bike, he will continue to use it in every situation.

 

[Cycling111]

Just saw that Jorgenson has added La Vuelta on his program.
Pog should go to bully him or let him breathe? LOL

Matxin nowadays is good at pushing Pog when he makes a bike change. He is not a factor.

I was saying it for this 👇

Maybe Matxin wants to take him to the Vuelta so he can stay in UAE.
It's a coincidence that two days ago the Spanish press reported that Ayuso could participate in the Vuelta instead of Pogacar, and now this.
The best thing for everyone is for him to move to another team. Although I've always thought Ayuso doesn't have much reason to be unhappy. He's led a GT every year, except last year because of his insistence on the Tour de France.

Not even Pogacar did two GTs at that age.

By the way, what a time to leak those things. His team in a decisivo week of the Tour.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1947568076007891051

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