Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Peyroteo94]

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He will never reach Pogacar's climbing ability. I think his move to Bora is good and he is very capable of closing (not totally) the gap to Pogacar in short hills (LBL, AGR, WC like Montreal, etc) but in medium mountains or long mountains, he will never be close. It's like comparing prime Contador with Leipheimer in the high mountains.

 

[Shortcut]

He will never reach Pogacar's climbing ability. I think his move to Bora is good and he is very capable of closing (not totally) the gap to Pogacar in short hills (LBL, AGR, WC like Montreal, etc) but in medium mountains or long mountains, he will never be close. It's like comparing prime Contador with Leipheimer in the high mountains.

It is weird that Remco and Pogacar never came together to finish (i mean just two of them). Or even not just to finish but were never alone. I always wonder how would they work together. Remco has such a weird engine, he was dropped at Worlds when he won and also Olimpics, he was dropped at first. The same thing happened this year WC and EC RR. Of course he won all ITT possible this year but other than that he won just one RR this year and that was his first race this year and not WT. It will be interesting what will happen with his schedule next year because i don't know how many times he will accept Pogacar beating him at every race, despite him being clear number two at hilly races. Should try next year maybe T-A, Amstel and FW (i doubt Pogi will be there) and LBL. After that Giro. It would be great having him, Jonas and Almeida+Del Toro at Giro as Pogi fan.

 

[tigabara]

If you want to use the Tennis analogy, there's never been a time in which the dominance of Djokovic came close to that of Pogacar.

Djokovic's reign spans two generations, the old generation with Federer and Nadal, and the younger generation with Sinner and Alcaraz. Yes, there were seasons where he was undoubtedly the best in both era's (2011, 2015 and 2021), but he never reached the dominance that I am currently witnessing with Pogacar. Djokovic never entered a Roland Garros where you could basically, bar illness or injury, state he's unbeatable, like I currently see with Pogacar.

It's all fine if people say 'enjoy that dominance', everyone enjoys watching sport in their own way, but I completely get that people moan about the boredom that comes with it as well. I also notice that I'm way less interested in the racing than a couple of years ago when the top riders were more level.

Well, Pogacar never entered MSR and PR as unbeatable force. Even in TdF he is not unbeatable (2022).

And, there is Marc Marquez in MotoGP. Etc.
My poin there are (were) "Aliens" in sports...

 

[Cycling111]

That jersey is too pretty .
Couldn't he race with this jersey in 2026 instead of the hideous UAE jersey? Especially that huge XRG ad.

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[kingjr]

Who's typing Tadej's Insta posts these days? "Cracking day" sounds like something an excitable British commentator would say

 

[Peyroteo94]

It is weird that Remco and Pogacar never came together to finish (i mean just two of them). Or even not just to finish but were never alone. I always wonder how would they work together. Remco has such a weird engine, he was dropped at Worlds when he won and also Olimpics, he was dropped at first. The same thing happened this year WC and EC RR. Of course he won all ITT possible this year but other than that he won just one RR this year and that was his first race this year and not WT. It will be interesting what will happen with his schedule next year because i don't know how many times he will accept Pogacar beating him at every race, despite him being clear number two at hilly races. Should try next year maybe T-A, Amstel and FW (i doubt Pogi will be there) and LBL. After that Giro. It would be great having him, Jonas and Almeida+Del Toro at Giro as Pogi fan.

Because Pogacar drops him every time.

 

[yaf2]

He will never reach Pogacar's climbing ability. I think his move to Bora is good and he is very capable of closing (not totally) the gap to Pogacar in short hills (LBL, AGR, WC like Montreal, etc) but in medium mountains or long mountains, he will never be close. It's like comparing prime Contador with Leipheimer in the high mountains.

Tbh i think he has taken a step compared to last year. His gap to pogacar is reducing a little bit especially on long endurance races(since the worlds tt i think i've never seen him being this good as the gaps he made to 2nd tier riders have been impressive). His problems are the long climbs where tadej constantly rides away from him & i agree i dont think they are closable tbh.

 

[Peyroteo94]

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[Peyroteo94]

Tbh i think he has taken a step compared to last year. His gap to pogacar is reducing a little bit especially on long endurance races(since the worlds tt i think i've never seen him being this good as the gaps he made to 2nd tier riders have been impressive). His problems are the long climbs where tadej constantly rides away from him & i agree i dont think they are closable tbh.

I don't agree. He is just lucky to have a much better team when they both ride for their national team. You turn this in a w/kg contest and Pogacar will rip Remco. GdL will be a prime example of that.

 

[tp4493]

I don't agree. He is just lucky to have a much better team when they both ride for their national team. You turn this in a w/kg contest and Pogacar will rip Remco. GdL will be a prime example of that.

How close to the limit do you feel pog is riding, or is he already riding as close to the limit as possible?

 

[AmRacer]

How close to the limit do you feel pog is riding, or is he already riding as close to the limit as possible?

Cruising

 

[Miss Violet Smith]

Teddy among ... the zucchinis?

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[yaf2]

I don't agree. He is just lucky to have a much better team when they both ride for their national team. You turn this in a w/kg contest and Pogacar will rip Remco. GdL will be a prime example of that.

Lucky? Lucky to drop a group of ayuso,scaroni& seixas 38 kms to go & still put 3 & half minutes into them? Lucky to put 45 secs into ganna & more than a minute on tarling on a flat TT? I wrote about his level which he took a step this summer not that he is on the level of pog on the climbs

 

[Peyroteo94]

Belgians are starting to realize Pogacar is from other planet.

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[Krzysztof_O]

How close to the limit do you feel pog is riding, or is he already riding as close to the limit as possible?

It is difficult to say what is the limit during 70 km solo (on varying terrain), it has to be a well measured effort. Average intensity should still be rather comfortable (i.e. 80% of FTP) but fatigue is gradually accumulating making it way more difficult at the end. Likely on the long climb he was operating above FTP for 10-15 minutes but afterwards much lower (probably short power spikes on climbs as one can gain more time there).

 

[Lequack]

I posted this a couple of years ago, but I think it should be reposted. Here he is racing for a local continental team, at age 18. This was before his breakout at Tour de l'Avenir and signing with UAE, and we all know the rest. He was a racer by heart then, and still is now.
PS: This was a national road champs race, you can also see a young Primoz Roglic in there (@4:28), who just signed for LottoNL-Jumbo at the time.

Race day with Tadej Pogačar (turn on English subtitles)​

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[Peyroteo94]

I posted this a couple of years ago, but I think it should be reposted. Here he is racing for a local continental team, at age 18. This was before his breakout at Tour de l'Avenir and signing with UAE, and we all know the rest. He was a racer by heart then, and still is now.
PS: This was a national road champs race, you can also see a young Primoz Roglic in there (@4:28), who just signed for LottoNL-Jumbo at the time.

Race day with Tadej Pogačar (turn on English subtitles)​

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Some of his loyal men in UAE came from this team.

 

[pihi42]

I don't hear a lot about National Olympic Committees planning on "how to dismantle domination" of Armand Duplantis, or that "the sport is dying" because of him. Not a lot of fanatics putting "underbelt jumper" stickers on him either. I don't see a lot of high jumpers crying or kicking bottles or changing jumping poles mid competition.
I see a lot of athletes trying to emulate his technique. A lot of people applauding him for "lifting the sport to higher levels".
Olympics are not "in danger of dying" because of Duplantis, on the contrary.

So why is it so different with Pogačar?

 

[Cycling111]

Il presidente della Società Ciclistica Alfredo Binda Renzo Oldani, con emozione, ha speso grandi parole di elogio nei confronti di Tadej Pogacar: “Siamo chiaramente felici ed orgogliosi di avere di nuovo il campione del mondo dei professionisti al via della nostra manifestazione. Ma oggi non voglio parlare del campione o del corridore di cui si è già detto tanto e che tutti conosciamo. Oggi voglio ringraziare l’uomo Tadej Pogacar. Ha dimostrato di essere una persona che mantiene la parola data, perché un anno fa mi aveva promesso che sarebbe tornato qui a Varese e nonostante un calendario fitto di impegni in questo finale di stagione ha dimostrato di avere una grande sensibilità e di dare un grande valore all’amicizia che dimostra con la partecipazione alla Tre Valli Varesine 2025. Anche da questi gesti si misura la statura umana di Tadej, che non è solo un grande campione, ma è un grande uomo”.

Renzo Oldani, president of the Alfredo Binda Cycling Society, was emotional and praised Tadej Pogacar: "We are clearly happy and proud to have the professional world champion back at the start of our event. But today I don't want to talk about the champion or the rider, about whom so much has already been said and whom we all know. Today I want to thank Tadej Pogacar the man. He has proven to be a man who keeps his word, because a year ago he promised me he would return here to Varese. And despite a busy schedule this final part of the season, he has shown great sensitivity and the value he places on the friendship he demonstrates by participating in the Tre Valli Varesine 2025. These gestures also demonstrate Tadej's human stature; he is not only a great champion, but a great man."

La maglia iridata di Tadej Pogacar tornerà in gara alla Tre Valli Varesine - BICITV

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[James M]

When Pogacar wins Lombardia next Sunday (and thereby podiums), he will become the first rider in the history to podium all five Monuments within the same year.

 

[Peyroteo94]

When Pogacar wins Lombardia next Sunday (and thereby podiums), he will become the first rider in the history to podium all five Monuments within the same year.

Monuments+Worlds:
3, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1?

Best classics season ever without a doubt.

 

[hayneplane]

I don't agree. He is just lucky to have a much better team when they both ride for their national team. You turn this in a w/kg contest and Pogacar will rip Remco. GdL will be a prime example of that.

I thought Slovenia did a pretty decent job for Pogacar in the Euro RR considering it’s barely more than a CT level roster other than Pogacar and a far from in form Mohoric for whom the parcours were too climby anyway.

 

[hayneplane]

When Pogacar wins Lombardia next Sunday (and thereby podiums), he will become the first rider in the history to podium all five Monuments within the same year.

A few other notable landmarks he would reach with a win would be:
- joint record holder with Coppi for GDL wins but most in a row on his own
- 3rd rider in history to reach 10 monument wins
- 2nd rider ever to win 3 monuments in a season (Merckx managed this a mind bending 4 times in his career)
- Lowest cumulative position total in history for all 5 monuments in 1 season.

 

[YavorD]

Actually by the time Pogacar may be the record holder (or at least joint) for most wins on 3 of the 5 monuments, WC and Tour se France.

 

[James M]

A few other notable landmarks he would reach with a win would be:
- joint record holder with Coppi for GDL wins but most in a row on his own
- 3rd rider in history to reach 10 monument wins
- 2nd rider ever to win 3 monuments in a season (Merckx managed this a mind bending 4 times in his career)
- Lowest cumulative position total in history for all 5 monuments in 1 season.

Impeccable. It also speaks volumes about his current historic run from 2024 to now. Last year was the best season ever recorded, and now this season, (he might) be the first to ever podium all five Monuments within the same year.