Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Panda Claws]

Is FW actually hype this year?

 

[tobydawq]

Is FW actually hype this year?

Is it ever?*

Pogacar will win if he rides.

*Edit: Okay, I now realise what you meant with your question. Without Valverde there can be no hype.

 

[movingtarget]

Generally the most predictable race of the season in that no one ever wins with a break and the latest the leaders are caught is near the bottom of the climb. It's also a race where the same ten or so riders often fight for victory. Not sure how that formula is going to change unless the route is radically altered and made harder.

 

[DNP-Old]

Generally the most predictable race of the season in that no one ever wins with a break and the latest the leaders are caught is near the bottom of the climb. It's also a race where the same ten or so riders often fight for victory. Not sure how that formula is going to change unless the route is radically altered and made harder.

I don't think making the race harder is going to chance much necessarily if you keep the same finish, everyone will still just be waiting for Mur de Huy.

Perhaps this formula is what organizers are happy with, but from a viewers pov. it's the same mistake that the Gold Race used to make for a long time with Cauberg. They stepped away from it, and now it's actually become a decent, acceptable race. Nothing spectacular, but you'll get a good hour of racing. I think Waalse Pijl too would benefit from placing the finish somewhere around Namur, and have the last Mur 30 odd kilometers from the finish.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

I don't think making the race harder is going to chance much necessarily if you keep the same finish, everyone will still just be waiting for Mur de Huy.

Perhaps this formula is what organizers are happy with, but from a viewers pov. it's the same mistake that the Gold Race used to make for a long time with Cauberg. They stepped away from it, and now it's actually become a decent, acceptable race. Nothing spectacular, but you'll get a good hour of racing. I think Waalse Pijl too would benefit from placing the finish somewhere around Namur, and have the last Mur 30 odd kilometers from the finish.

Flech Wallone has its own identity, it shouldn't change, what's the point of having another race like Brabant Pijl, Amstel and Liege. The shootout on the Mur is great fun

 

[DNP-Old]

Flech Wallone has its own identity, it shouldn't change, what's the point of having another race like Brabant Pijl, Amstel and Liege. The shootout on the Mur is great fun

What the point is? Let me answer this question by raising another question: would your girlfriend or wife be satisfied with 5 hours of foreplay and a minute of actual action?

 

[Ilmaestro99]

What the point is? Let me answer this question by raising another question: would your girlfriend or wife be satisfied with 5 hours of foreplay and a minute of actual action?

She has to be because 1 minute is all I can manage. But 1 minute with ilmaestro it's a good minute.

Fleche wallone is the ultimate puncheur shootout, there no other race like it, we get to know who is the absolute best in the world. And it's a midweek race, I'm busy , I don't spent my life watching cycling, watching races from start to end, so I'm happy to tune in 20k to go and see the final.

If you want bunch of hills 20km from the final you have already amstel, Liege, even flanders. Let's not make every race the same

 

[gregrowlerson]

She has to be because 1 minute is all I can manage. But 1 minute with ilmaestro it's a good minute.

Fleche wallone is the ultimate puncheur shootout, there no other race like it, we get to know who is the absolute best in the world. And it's a midweek race, I'm busy , I don't spent my life watching cycling, watching races from start to end, so I'm happy to tune in 20k to go and see the final.

If you want bunch of hills 20km from the final you have already amstel, Liege, even flanders. Let's not make every race the same

You're a sprinter?

Who knew?

Oh well, quality matters more than quantity.

But now maybe your profile pic is representative of your girlfriend after an illmaestro99 minute.

 

[Bolder]

Flech Wallone has its own identity, it shouldn't change, what's the point of having another race like Brabant Pijl, Amstel and Liege. The shootout on the Mur is great fun

Yeah, but if the whole thing was reduced to an uphill ITT on the Huy you'd have the same results, no?

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Yeah, but if the whole thing was reduced to an uphill ITT on the Huy you'd have the same results, no?

No, a bunch kick is a way punchier and more irregular effort.

 

[Netserk]

Flech Wallone has its own identity, it shouldn't change, what's the point of having another race like Brabant Pijl, Amstel and Liege. The shootout on the Mur is great fun

Well, it's an identity based on how it has been raced since 2004. It's not like it has no history previous to that.

 

[SafeBet]

Why are we discussing this in the Pogacar thread Btw?
It's likely the single race where he has performed the worst since turning pro.

 

[Extinction]

I really enjoy the end up the Mur de Huy, it's like opening a bottle of champagne, to go with the minute-man Ilmaestro99 analogy.

 

[gunara]

Why are we discussing this in the Pogacar thread Btw?
It's likely the single race where he has performed the worst since turning pro.

We hardly needs thread for this race, too little thing to discuss, just lift dormant Valverde thread every year.

 

[search]

ASO's newest press release says "Tadej [is] ready to Po-Go-Go in the Ardennes". Not quite sure what's that supposed to be, but I guess we will see.

Tadej ready to Po-Go-Go in the Ardennes - La Flèche Wallonne 2025

It feels like the dawn of a new era! Alejandro Valverde, Philippe Gilbert and Vincenzo Nibali all hung up their bicycles in 2022, dramatically changing the lan

www.la-fleche-wallonne.be

 

[SHAD0W93]

Yeah, but if the whole thing was reduced to an uphill ITT on the Huy you'd have the same results, no?

No, a bunch kick is a way punchier and more irregular effort.

Or they could race it 20-30 times and the winner of each ascent gets a point, most points win. Throw a little pizazz on the race.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

ASO's newest press release says "Tadej [is] ready to Po-Go-Go in the Ardennes". Not quite sure what's that supposed to be, but I guess we will see.

Tadej ready to Po-Go-Go in the Ardennes - La Flèche Wallonne 2025

It feels like the dawn of a new era! Alejandro Valverde, Philippe Gilbert and Vincenzo Nibali all hung up their bicycles in 2022, dramatically changing the lan

www.la-fleche-wallonne.be

Tadej hasn't really impacted this uphill drag race yet so FW organizers may be too excited here. Or they can brag about their race being so difficult (read easy) that even Pogi can't conquer the Mur.

 

[Oldermanish]

Or they could race it 20-30 times and the winner of each ascent gets a point, most points win. Throw a little pizazz on the race.

That is a cruel proposition....Except after 10 laps a break decides just like the real thing.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

ASO's newest press release says "Tadej [is] ready to Po-Go-Go in the Ardennes". Not quite sure what's that supposed to be, but I guess we will see.

Tadej ready to Po-Go-Go in the Ardennes - La Flèche Wallonne 2025

It feels like the dawn of a new era! Alejandro Valverde, Philippe Gilbert and Vincenzo Nibali all hung up their bicycles in 2022, dramatically changing the lan

www.la-fleche-wallonne.be

He will win on a Pogo stick obviously.

 

[SHAD0W93]

How many cyclists are going to get their watch stolen….

Tadej Pogacar luxury watch thieves given four-year jail sentence

Richard Mille watch worth 165,000 Euro stolen from Paris-Nice team hotel

www.cyclingnews.com

 

[Panda Claws]

Tadej Pogacar can become the first ever rider to have a CQ score of over 4000 if he gains 507 or more points during the Ardennes. He will have to ride FW to have a shot at this, though.

FYI
AGR and FW give 220/132/112/96/86/... points
LBL gives 280/170/145/125/112/... points

 

[tobydawq]

Tadej Pogacar can become the first ever rider to have a CQ score of over 4000 if he gains 507 or more points during the Ardennes. He will have to ride FW to have a shot at this, though.

FYI
AGR and FW give 220/132/112/96/86/... points
LBL gives 280/170/145/125/112/... points

He already had that after Flanders last year.

Edit: You even liked a post about it on page 138 on this thread

 

[Panda Claws]

He already had that after Flanders last year .

Edit: You even liked a post about it on page 138 on this thread

Lmao damn

 

[SHAD0W93]

He already had that after Flanders last year .

Edit: You even liked a post about it on page 138 on this thread

Damn, you have the receipts and all

 

[gregrowlerson]

Innocence lost. I don't believe in Panda Claws no more.