Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Froome]

So now Pogi is a wheelsucker. You got to love the cycling fans. Had to deal with the same *** in Rogličes thread.

Nobody said that.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Nobody said that.

You are not a proper stage racer until you master the art of wheelsucking.

 

[Froome]

You are not a proper stage racer until you master the art of wheelsucking.

When you master the art of wheelsucking and you don't attack to increase the advantage, things like stage 20 of the Tour 2020 happen.

 

[Berniece]

You are not a proper stage racer until you master the art of wheelsucking.

Which was said by a Roglic fan, to say it's OK to wheelsuck.

 

[CyclistAbi]

When you master the art of wheelsucking and you don't attack to increase the advantage, things like stage 20 of the Tour 2020 happen.

A honest mistake, rectified at Giro 2023. And at Tour 2020, while we are at it, Pogi wheelsucked.

 

[Elos Anjos]

The discussion level has been lowering since some pages ago. By the usual suspects.

It's always the same spin. It's always so tiring. Like "Roglic lost the 2020 Tour" and never "Pogacar won the 2020 Tour".

If not for his Dauphine crash Roglic would likely fare better in the PDBF time trial.

https://granfondoguide.com/Contents/PopUp/5646/favorite-primoz-roglic-confirms-tour-de-france-start-after-dauphine-crash

 

[Elos Anjos]

Which was said by a Roglic fan, to say it's OK to wheelsuck.

You were starting to understand it, but now you got thrown back to the same mindless mantra of "wheelsuck is bad mkay".

Everyone wheelsucks.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Which was said by a Roglic fan, to say it's OK to wheelsuck.

There for sure are reason, on why Rogla is the best stage racer of the current generation. But no, it's general knowledge, regarding wheelsucking. On how that can be beneficial to increasing ones chances.

 

[Elos Anjos]

I'm pretty sure Rui Costa would trade a good share of his victories thanks to the tactical acumen of wheelsucking at the right and at the right location for being some anonymous WT rider and not being called a wheelsucker.

 

[Froome]

A honest mistake, rectified at Giro 2023. And at Tour 2020, while we are at it, Pogi wheelsucked.

I think pogi attacked on peyresourde and marie blanque at least. On col de la loze and glieres he was in trouble, he couldn't attack.

 

[Froome]

There for sure are reason, on why Rogla is the best stage racer of the current generation. But no, it's general knowledge, regarding wheelsucking. On how that can be beneficial to increasing ones chances.

Who are the riders of the current generation you consider?

 

[CyclistAbi]

I think pogi attacked on peyresourde and marie blanque at least. On col de la loze and glieres he was in trouble, he couldn't attack.

Just as Roglič often attacks when racing, usually at least once per race he wins. Then some even take out the tape measure, to argue about length.

Who are the riders of the current generation you consider?

All.

 

[Froome]

Just as Roglič often attacks when racing. Usually at least once per race he wins.



All.

Well, Froome's palmares speak for himself if you consider "all".

 

[CyclistAbi]

Well, Froome's palmares speak for himself if you consider "all".

You got me there @Froome.

P.S. Although, working on it.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

You either die an attacker or live long long enough to see yourself become a wheelsucker.

 

[AmRacer]

Well, Froome's palmares speak for himself if you consider "all".

You used to suck your teammates wheels, until you had enough and spun away.

 

[scribers]

Marco Pantani was no damned wheelsucker!

 

[Berniece]

You were starting to understand it, but now you got thrown back to the same mindless mantra of "wheelsuck is bad mkay".

Everyone wheelsucks.

Wheelsuck isn’t bad, it’s boring

 

[Red Rick]

Marco Pantani was no damned wheelsucker!

Every video of him attacking shows him with 8 motors in front of him.

 

[Froome]

You used to suck your teammates wheels, until you had enough and spun away.

You used to suck your teammates wheels, until you had enough and spun away.

Yes, he did that 😂 Usually he did that after making some attacks who made him have a good advantage, ax 3 domaines and ventoux, pierre saint martin, stage 18 of the Giro 2018.

 

[CyclistAbi]

One possible Tour strategy for Pogi is to rip the race apart on stage 9 and then wheelsuck as a pro.

 

[scribers]

One possible Tour strategy for Pogi is to rip the race apart on stage 9 and then wheelsuck as a pro.

i can’t imagine he’d attack Vingo’s mechanical unless he’s already well out in front.

Assuming he has to dig deep, how much time is worth the effort? Anything less than a minute spells danger for him in week three to me. 2-3 minutes would be worth whatever investment he makes

 

[Krzysztof_O]

i can’t imagine he’d attack Vingo’s mechanical unless he’s already well out in front.

Assuming he has to dig deep, how much time is worth the effort? Anything less than a minute spells danger for him in week three to me. 2-3 minutes would be worth whatever investment he makes

Imagine Skeletor losing substantial time on the gravel stage. Mountain stages would be carnage with Vingo and JV going a bloc day in day out!

 

[scribers]

The problem is also that damn alien ITT by vingo. Has anyone ran an analysis on this year's offerings how much time Vingo can gain on Pog assuming similar conditions?

 

[Froome]

The problem is also that damn alien ITT by vingo. Has anyone ran an analysis on this year's offerings how much time Vingo can gain on Pog assuming similar conditions?

It's a "big problem" for the rivals, when a guy who weighs the same as Quintana, is better in the TTs 😂