Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

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Well you have to be a Hinault, a monster, to attack as he did and get his results. Of course, the sport has radically changed (for the worse) since his era, but Pogacar is of that calibre, so the panache of yore is still possibile. Whereas learning to wheelsuck only results in monotonous, negative racing, doesn't extend one's career, but only results in the calculated fiasco of contemporary cycling. Thank God we now have Pogacar, Evenepoel, MVDP, WVA and Vingegaard to rekindle the fire.
Hinault famously sat on Lemond's wheel and was gifted the Alpe d' Huez victory by his teammate. This after creating a rift within the team and attacking the GC leader, Mr. Greg L. The appearances were of happy teammates collaborating in a Hollywood victory. Every Hero has sat on a wheel until the towing rider became annoyed and changed tactics. That is Every Rider. You don't get a thank you for being stupid enough to tow another to a victory unless it's a paid teammate. Thank God for great riders but every one of them know how to sit a wheel. You just don't know how to quit feeding the trolls. Get it....they're trolling.
 
While I agree with everything else, he didn’t start helping Bernal until the descent was over and knew they were going to stay away and he’d gain a lot of time. Which again gaining time was to his benefit compared to the situation that is being argued. He was already in the lead in Catalunya so had no reason to work as Evenepoel was behind. That’s the perks of being in the lead.
And that was of course 100% right decision, just like in Catalunya 2023.
 
Pathetic is indeed a bit much. He rides to his strengths, and in his case that is wheelsucking.

The "problem" here is, regardless of the discussions and arguments involved , you will result to wheelsucking in this debate. Mostly due to being stuck in Catalunya 2023. So, as season 2024 is near, all mentioned riders can assert their superiority. And resolve this once and for that race only. As then the next one will come. And ...
 
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There is one good thing that came out of this debate. Some additional clarity on the probable inter peloton dynamics, at the Tour 2024.

Jonas, only objective to win, anything else than that is a no go.

The Slovenians, not only, but for sure the main objective, crack Jonas. And then to work together at Olympics/Worlds, time for some medals.

Remco, he doesn't discriminate, any of the above, finishing behind, would do.
 
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I wish Tadej the best but I saw a video yesterday of him struggling in the Col du Granon and that doesn't seem like a GT rider to me.

I wish Tadej the best but I saw a video yesterday of him struggling in the Col de la Loze and that doesn't seem like a GT rider to me.
Are you after "likes" or are you for real?

The examples you and others mentioned still afforded 2nd places and were shocking because they showed the first shinkles in an otherwise unbreakable armor. They never questioned Pogacar or Roglic capabilities as GT riders.

After his early demise at La Vuelta 2023 I'm struggling to realize how Remco can shift from his failings at a mild Vuelta to being a Tour contender. The above video illustrates what many people think.
 
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Are you after "likes" or are you for real?

The examples you and others mentioned still afforded 2nd places and were shocking because they showed the first shinkles in an otherwise unbreakable armor. They never questioned Pogacar or Roglic capabilities as GT riders.

After his early demise at La Vuelta 2023 I'm struggling to realize how Remco can shift from his failings at a mild Vuelta to being a Tour contender. The above video illustrates what many people think.
My comment was intended as nothing more than a joke, but it is quite funny to see how it stirred you up.

Thanks for the likes, all! Please keep them coming, I really need them.
 
Rider who was last survivor in the days break, got caught and spat out the back, shockingly rides slowly and struggles up a 13km 10% climb. Grateful for the cutting edge insight and analysis provided in the cycling news forum
Please do not do this. We take everything at face value here. Context is only applied and deemed appropriate when it fits our agenda.

You've been part of a two man break all day and didn't shred the Angliru record? Scrub!