Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[mou]

it will be fun for the fisherman in gevrey chambertin, very fun, even those condoms on his head won't help him

 

[Didinho]

it will be fun for the fisherman in gevrey chambertin, very fun, even those condoms on his head won't help him

Vingo in Itzulia after reading this forum:

 

[mou]

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www.wielerflits.nl

these guys act like they don't serve Pog just like girls from Romania when they come to Rocco Sifredi's for casting, only to be splashed on them, ok if they want a new golden shower tomorrow, GOAT will deliver it to the yellow army

 

[mou]

the haters thought they would put an end to @mou's hype today, but after today he went to unimaginable heights, some people's dioptres were removed, some who are completely blind saw a little, and even the Pope personally can't help the haters as much as they troll and have malice in them. ...

 

[Lequack]

This is too much hype for one day!

 

[Peyroteo94]

Pretty disappointing time up the climb given all the hype, nothing to show he is better than his 2023 level

It was raining... he could go 20 seconds faster

 

[Peyroteo94]

The conversation about bad weather for Pogacar is BS. Yes, the majority of the riders suffer more in bad weather, but Pogacar it's opposite, based on the claims Pogacar and the UAE perfomance staff said in the past. Yes, Pogacar already said he is better in bad weather, it suits him, and you just need to remember romme/colombiere where the weather was even worse than today.

So, the conditions for Pogacar today were very good, and he disappointed a lot, specially because of silly statements that he was going to be a lot better this year.

Dude, he is not better in bad weather, he just copes better the rain than his rivals which means his performance don't go down too much but there is no rider who can climb a mountain faster on wet roads instead of dry roads.

 

[Peyroteo94]

guys, relax, I told you nicely, but you persistently don't listen, in the next 4 years, Pog will not lose a single one-week and grand tour race, everything else is not important, and that is as safe as in your safe, today was a bit stronger training that he works in Monaco, you persistently deny the fact who is writing about Pog, someone very familiar with the situation

Love Pogi but you are such a troll.

 

[mou]

Love Pogi but you are such a troll.

you see how Pog is trolling the peloton today, why wouldn't I troll you too

 

[ontheroad]

Dude, he is not better in bad weather, he just copes better the rain than his rivals which means his performance don't go down too much but there is no rider who can climb a mountain faster on wet roads instead of dry roads.

The very fact that this even requires an explanation on a cycling forum shows the blinkered nature of cycling fans. He set a record time in horrible weather conditions having rode much of the climb solo and was most likely riding within himself. That’s about all we know, it’s difficult to extrapolate that information and speculate how it might have compared to Vingegaard. But to my mind, at least visually, it was a brutal show of strength.

 

[Poursuivant]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1770195438374637964

View: https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily/status/1770195438374637964

 

[Froome]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1770195438374637964

View: https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily/status/1770195438374637964

6.2 / 6.3 w/kg?

 

[Salvarani]

6.2 / 6.3 w/kg?

I know it is a long time since you have seen those numbers, so I understand it must be confusing for you.

Keep putting the hard miles in, you will get there Froomie.

 

[Froome]

Dude, he is not better in bad weather, he just copes better the rain than his rivals which means his performance don't go down too much but there is no rider who can climb a mountain faster on wet roads instead of dry roads.

I wasn't talking directly about that( the part of 15 s faster than ciccone was messing a bit), i was saying that in terms of power, it wasn't a superb performance. Pogacar already did better than this in the past, with worse weather than today.

 

[proffate]

guys, relax, I told you nicely, but you persistently don't listen, in the next 4 years, Pog will not lose a single one-week and grand tour race, everything else is not important, and that is as safe as in your safe, today was a bit stronger training that he works in Monaco, you persistently deny the fact who is writing about Pog, someone very familiar with the situation

What are you, a time traveler?

Why don't you use your super powers to get rich from sports betting instead of just annoying us luddites?

 

[yaf]

6.2 / 6.3 w/kg?

6.66w/k adjusted to sea level. It was one of his best performance in a 30 min climb. He would have gone faster with a better condition.

 

[AmRacer]

worse weather

The magic words.

 

[Froome]

6.66w/k adjusted to sea level. It was one of his best performance in a 30 min climb. He would have gone faster with a better condition.

Stop copy statements from Naichaca.

 

[proffate]

So, the conditions for Pogacar today were very good, and he disappointed a lot, specially because of silly statements that he was going to be a lot better this year.

His fans are not disappointed that he won by 2 minutes. His detractors might be disappointed that he won by 2 minutes, but you seem to think that he should have won by even more, so I guess haters like you should also be happy. So who is disappointed?

You're also conveniently ignoring the fact that he obviously wasn't treating this as a maximal test. He's supposed to be on cruise control until July; why would he push it to the max in March?

 

[Froome]

His fans are not disappointed that he won by 2 minutes. His detractors might be disappointed that he won by 2 minutes, but you seem to think that he should have won by even more, so I guess haters like you should also be happy. So who is disappointed?

You're also conveniently ignoring the fact that he obviously wasn't treating this as a maximal test. He's supposed to be on cruise control until July; why would he push it to the max in March?

At least this year, the excuse "he had the Giro in his legs" will not be valid.

 

[proffate]

At least this year, the excuse "he had the Giro in his legs" will not be valid.

IMO the greater risk of Teddy riding the Giro is that he'll crash and injure himself rather than burn up too many matches. After all, 3 weeks of z2 is rather boring and he might lose some focus.

 

[peterfin]

Pogi was hiding in the woods today like he is hiding from a GC battle with Vingo, Remco and Rogla until the TdF but even then he can hide behind his Giro efforts if he would fail again.

 

[yaf]

Stop copy statements from Naichaca.

What are u talking about? U dont have a clue about performance and power to weight ratio. U were making an analogy of pogs stage 8 2021 tour performance where the altitude there was much lower and u say today's performance is less.😖

 

[roundabout]

At least this year, the excuse "he had the Giro in his legs" will not be valid.

Why isn't your favorite riding the Giro too then? Should be an easy historic double, right?

 

[proffate]

What are u talking about? U dont have a clue about performance and power to weight ratio. U were making an analogy of pogs stage 8 2021 tour performance where the altitude there was much lower and u say today's performance is less.😖

While I agree with the gist of what you are saying, individual response to altitude is highly variable so we can't accurately back out that factor for a "sea level equivalent" w/kg.

6.66 for 18 minutes seems a tad too high given the apparent exertion level (AE, from here on out) or Pog is just really good at hiding his discomfort.