Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Peyroteo94]

UAE has a lot of strong guys so probably sending one more to the Giro wouldn't hurt them (hopefully Majka will be consistently strong). There could be various circumstances when having one more strong climbing teammate is important to save energy (not necessarily Pogacar's mechanical or him being dropped - it's hard to crack him without JV/Vingo power) i.e. tactical situation of chasing some potentially dangerous guys. I agree that having a stronger team would make his life more comfortable and saving some energy for the Tour more likely.

This is true but looking to the squad they will bring in July. Holy Moly, they are insanely strong for the mountains. I can definetly see a scenario somewhat similar to Jumbo in 2023 Vuelta.

 

[ice&fire]

UAE is safe until stage 15 so Pogi only needs to build a large advantage until stage 15. With 2 time trials, the first weekend and Prati di Tivo, I can see Pogi winning more than 6 minutes.

Ha can safely ride the Giro in second chair, saving the team work to control the race, and put the hammer down on Monte Grappa. Yeah, I know, hell will freeze over before we see him ride that way.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

This is true but looking to the squad they will bring in July. Holy Moly, they are insanely strong for the mountains. I can definetly see a scenario somewhat similar to Jumbo in 2023 Vuelta.

Pog's individual power at the Tour is still more important than the collective power IMO, that's why saving some energy is crucial. It's not like Roglic or Evenepoel will let UAE take top3 (like JV at the Vuelta). There could also be some inside team tensions in case Pog is not strong enough (i.e. Ayuso guy) but also some gains vs rivals regarding tactics OFC.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

looking forward, saw the WC road in zurich.. man , if he has any kind of form that's basically a shoe-in for Pogi.

4400 altitude meters. 1 steep climb 1.1km, 1 longer less steep climb, both close together. I'd be amazed if he doesn't win worlds solo

 

[QueenStagiaire]

looking forward, saw the WC road in zurich.. man , if he has any kind of form that's basically a shoe-in for Pogi.

4400 altitude meters. 1 steep climb 1.1km, 1 longer less steep climb, both close together. I'd be amazed if he doesn't win worlds solo

Worlds is always great for Remco without the team radios, though because it’s hard to organize a chase. Furthermore, Pog definitely hasn‘t had the best results in Worlds (especially in its usual time slot). But if he finds his shape…

 

[Nick2413]

looking forward, saw the WC road in zurich.. man , if he has any kind of form that's basically a shoe-in for Pogi.

4400 altitude meters. 1 steep climb 1.1km, 1 longer less steep climb, both close together. I'd be amazed if he doesn't win worlds solo

Now that’s he’s no longer eligible for white jersey it’s time to move on to the rainbows.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Pog's individual power at the Tour is still more important than the collective power IMO, that's why saving some energy is crucial. It's not like Roglic or Evenepoel will let UAE take top3 (like JV at the Vuelta). There could also be some inside team tensions in case Pog is not strong enough (i.e. Ayuso guy) but also some gains vs rivals regarding tactics OFC.

For some reason, I think Remco will implode in the Tour. Pogacar is too big and way better to be threatened by Ayuso. Galibier will be crucial to see the level of UAE. But you are right, it will all depend on Pogacar's legs.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Worlds is always great for Remco without the team radios, though because it’s hard to organize a chase. Furthermore, Pog definitely hasn‘t had the best results in Worlds (especially in its usual time slot). But if he finds his shape…

yeah that's true, another peak after Giro-Tour-Olympics seems unlikely.

 

[AmRacer]

yeah that's true, another peak after Giro-Tour-Olympics seems unlikely.

Emilia and Lombardia

 

[hayneplane]

Christen looked like Pogacar junior when he attacked on that lovely cobbled climb in Romandie today. Could be a key man to launch Pogacar in Flanders next year if he rides it.

 

[Salvarani]

I think Novak will be very good. Bjerg as well.

Grosschartner + Majka left for the final.

Oliveira and Laengen to pull on the flats.

Molano? No idea really.

 

[KZD]

Christen looked like Pogacar junior when he attacked on that lovely cobbled climb in Romandie today. Could be a key man to launch Pogacar in Flanders next year if he rides it.

Sanremo too, I think both Christen and Morgado could become game changers for UAE there.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Sanremo too, I think both Christen and Morgado could become game changers for UAE there.

I think MSR will put Le Manie back to have Pogi as a winner.

 

[Lequack]

He's cooking up something

https://twitter.com/x/status/1783073648397459859

View: https://twitter.com/giroditalia/status/1783073648397459859

 

[Peyroteo94]

They give rain in the first weekend. 3 minutes gap in coming

 

[Krzysztof_O]

He's cooking up something

https://twitter.com/x/status/1783073648397459859

View: https://twitter.com/giroditalia/status/1783073648397459859

I told you guys, his eating camp has started. You won't know who a fatty in UAE bib is during the Giro presentation.

 

[Gratemans]

There are always other teams riding aga

He's cooking up something

https://twitter.com/x/status/1783073648397459859

View: https://twitter.com/giroditalia/status/1783073648397459859

He should make a pizza Hawaï next

 

[Peyroteo94]

How can he be so much better than other riders even when he doesn't train at altitude and others train? He is that naturally gifted or just a better responder to things that cannot be talk here?

 

[Netserk]

How can he be so much better than other riders even when he doesn't train at altitude and others train? He is that naturally gifted or just a better responder to things that cannot be talk here?

Everything all at once.

 

[snipeheem]

However, despite his achievements, De Vlaeminck does not spare some rough words: "Pogacar is a top rider and by far the best in the world, with Mathieu van der Poel a close second. Unfortunately, Mathieu can't keep up in the mountains. That would have been an exciting duel. But Pogacar isn't even half the rider Merckx was."

"If Merckx were to race in the same Giro as Pogacar, Pogačar would be five minutes behind in the general classification

 

[snipeheem]

Eddy Merckx was on another level, huh? There's absolutely no comparison between Pogacar and Merckx. Pogacar is a fantastic rider, and the Strade Bianche is a tough race, but not a legendary one, huh. He broke away ninety kilometers from the finish, and nobody could follow. I guarantee you: if I had been on his wheel, he would never have dropped me in my prime," de Vlaeminck said in words to Wielerrevue. "Never in his life! Just like Francesco Moser and Beppe Saronni couldn't either."

 

[yaf]

However, despite his achievements, De Vlaeminck does not spare some rough words: "Pogacar is a top rider and by far the best in the world, with Mathieu van der Poel a close second. Unfortunately, Mathieu can't keep up in the mountains. That would have been an exciting duel. But Pogacar isn't even half the rider Merckx was."

"If Merckx were to race in the same Giro as Pogacar, Pogačar would be five minutes behind in the general classification

As great as merckx was i would be surprised if he rides kwaremont the way pog did dropping vanderpoel off the wheal.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

As great as merckx was i would be surprised if he rides kwaremont the way pog did dropping vanderpoel off the wheal.

I wouldn‘t be surprised if Merckx would hand Poulidor‘s grandson some second places.

 

[Peyroteo94]

All this talk about Merckx... 99% of this forum didn't see him race... how can they tell Merckx would smoke MVP? Or lose to Pogacar? We don't know. But one thing I'm sure, Merckx would not win half of his wins if he was racing today. They are all professional cyclists nowadays.

 

[Berniece]

As great as merckx was i would be surprised if he rides kwaremont the way pog did dropping vanderpoel off the wheal.

He would’ve dropped them all earlier