Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[IndianCyclist]

What do you mean? 7 watts/kg on Ventoux by Pogi? Or 3 Ineos drones on the podium following Slovenians' crashes?

Suprising fact from GCN. Ineos have never won a race where Pogacar has started

 

[bNator]

Suprising fact from GCN. Ineos have never won a race where Pogacar has started

I undrstood it a bit differently. Not only did they not win - they never classified higher in GC than Pogacar in any stage race where he started. Nor did they classify higher than Roglic for than matter (Sky did though..).

 

[SafeBet]

I undrstood it a bit differently. Not only did they not win - they never classified higher in GC than Pogacar in any stage race where he started.

They tried to solve the problem by buying all of the riders who won a stage race Pogacar rode in 2020 (apart from Pog himself).

As for Roglic, Ineos finished higher than him in Paris - Nice 2021 with Van Baarle.

 

[johnymax]

Suprising fact from GCN. Ineos have never won a race where Pogacar has started

I undrstood it a bit differently. Not only did they not win - they never classified higher in GC than Pogacar in any stage race where he started. Nor did they classify higher than Roglic for than matter (Sky did though..).

They said that Tour 2018 was the last stage race INEOS won with either Roglič or Pogačar on the startlist. Since then the've won 19 stage races, but none when at least one of the two Slovenians was participating.

 

[pinkobalinko]

Does anyone know if the slovenian national time trial championships are today or tomorrow?

Live stream, but I don't know if it is geoblocked

TV Slovenija

www.rtvslo.si

 

[BlueRoads]

Live stream, but I don't know if it is geoblocked

TV Slovenija

www.rtvslo.si

No, it's not

 

[pinkobalinko]

1. J Tratnik (Bahrain)
2. J Polanc (UAE)
3. T Pogačar (UAE)

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Pogi thought it was only one lap. He can't win Slovenian TT championships even without Roglic. Is he good enough to crush the Tour rivals deliver bidons to Majka? Peak at the ToS confirmed.

 

[Poursuivant]

Pogi thought it was only one lap. He can't win Slovenian TT championships even without Roglic. Is he good enough to crush the Tour rivals deliver bidons to Majka? Peak at the ToS confirmed.

Didn’t he beat Roglic last year in the Nats TT

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Didn’t he beat Roglic last year in the Nats TT

He did beat him (and also won the year before) so this loss is even more surprising. The course was completely flat though (as opposed to previous years).

 

[Rackham]

1. J Tratnik (Bahrain)
2. J Polanc (UAE)
3. T Pogačar (UAE)

A 'Special' award should go to Tratnik for crashing after he finished.

I also swear I saw a rider cut the u-turn before the traffic cone at one point. In any case, thanks @pinkobalinko for the link.

Didn’t he beat Roglic last year in the Nats TT

He did. It was a mountain TT though.

 

[yaco]

He will lose a bit of time to others in the two ITT's at the TDF which will lead to more exciting racing as he will need to ride an attacking race.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

He will lose a bit of time to others in the two ITT's at the TDF which will lead to more exciting racing as he will need to ride an attacking race.

Yes, I expect him to lose some time to Roglic in the first TT (i.e. 20-30 seconds), maybe to Thomas as well. Not sure about the second TT though: condition at the end of the Tour is a different matter.

 

[Rackham]

He will lose a bit of time to others in the two ITT's at the TDF which will lead to more exciting racing as he will need to ride an attacking race.

That's a Roglic fantasy scenario, i.e. because Ineos would suddenly become his best friends. Pogacar attack = Ineos train chasing him down/managing the gap. Certainly if he attacks over 5km out.

I mean whichever one (Pog or Rog) needs to go on the offensive in the mountains will have a dark blue Sky train riding down on him... with Rog (in that scenario) sitting on their wheels waiting to counter-attack.

So many endless possibilities for action, which is why that TT on stage 5 looks so tasty (& those puncheur stages on day 1 & 2 as well). Because it'll create much needed GC time gaps before the first Alpine stages. Tignes in particular is going to be a major battleground.

 

[Cookster15]

Hmm, maybe there is hope the TdF isn't a walkover based upon Pogacar's national TT champs result - Pogi is human? 2nd behind Pogi at Tour of Slovenia was Ulissi so that isn't a great indicator.

Maybe last season was Covid related. In any case Ineos look very strong. JV don't look as strong as 2020 either, I think its game on but then I'm usually wrong

 

[topt]

Polanc beat him, its quite obvious he wasnt going full gas

 

[IndianCyclist]

Polanc beat him, its quite obvious he wasnt going full gas

Why is he participating if not for winning. Its an ITT not as if he could tow his teammates for the win

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Maybe there was some TDF preparation done between slovenia and the time trial today.

maybe just a bad day.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Tratnik, them lot again.

 

[ice&fire]

Sandbagging

 

[bajbar]

It was very hot today, over 30 degrees. And he said before he does not really like heat.

 

[Cookster15]

Sandbagging

Could be true but I hope not. In any case if he or his team was confident of his form why would he need to resort to such tactics. There is no need to sandbag a 40 minute TT in his situation. The heat explanation makes more sense. We will see.

 

[Tinnekeisabella]

I have a feeling he did not go full gas. God knows why, but he seemed quite relaxed at the interview. Although it took a long time for the UAE guys to get to the podium so he could have brushed off his disappointment

 

[Gargamel35]

Pogačar had only 1 incredible god like TT in his career. And it was the 20th stage of 2020 TdF. All other TTs were subpar or even bad compared to that one.
You can't destroy the whole field one day and then never ever get even close to that again.

So that raises a lot of questions about that TdF TT.

 

[BlueRoads]

I have a feeling he did not go full gas. God knows why, but he seemed quite relaxed at the interview. Although it took a long time for the UAE guys to get to the podium so he could have brushed off his disappointment

Well, there are several possible explanations, but I watched for like two minutes and also got the feeling he wasn't going full gas.
Could also be the heat... the fact that it was completely flat...
Anything about his numbers / time per km?