Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Krzysztof_O]

I strongly disagree, def in the case of Formolo. He would die working for Tadej.

I don't know Majka that well, but he has done most of the training together with Tadej so I am sure they have a bond now

Judging by some of Majka's comments, he enjoys racing in this team with Tadej and I think he's ready to sacrifice 100% for him.

 

[Tinnekeisabella]

I have fan instagram for Tadej (suprise ) and when I posted about the team, Rui Costa commented "ready to this again CHAMP", so I think he is on board too.

 

[BigCoward]

So true. Pog lacks a loyal and strong superdom. Majka/Formolo is not like Szmyd for Basso or Porte for Froome, Pog's helpers have their own agenda.

They should have broke the bank for Richie Porte.

 

[RedheadDane]

I have fan instagram for Tadej (suprise ) and when I posted about the team, Rui Costa commented "ready to this again CHAMP", so I think he is on board too.

Bjerg also seems to on board. Of course, he's not exactly a man for the mountains - ironically enough - but they're also gonna need someone to do the work on the flat, and bring water.

 

[Red Rick]

It's 2021 and I'm still question where the "Majka bad teammate" comes from.

 

[Lequack]

 

[SafeBet]

It's 2021 and I'm still question where the "Majka bad teammate" comes from.

Where most of the "rider x bad teammate" come from, I guess.
Didn't have the legs to help his captain. Was dropped earlier than forum expected. People complained he didn't care about the team.

Add "bad teammate" points if said captain was/is a forum darling.

 

[Netserk]

He did moan back in 2015, but I think since then he rarely had to work for anyone else (before this year), and I think that perhaps there’s some conflation with his unwillingness to pull and take initiative as a captain.

 

[RedheadDane]

Where most of the "rider x bad teammate" come from, I guess.
Didn't have the legs to help his captain. Was dropped earlier than forum expected. People complained he didn't care about the team.

Add "bad teammate" points if said captain was/is a forum darling.

Add more "pain teammate" points if said rider a few days later ended up in a break that got a significant amount of time, and ended up competing for the win. Because then he'd obviously just been saving himself.

 

[SafeBet]

Add more "pain teammate" points if said rider a few days later ended up in a break that got a significant amount of time, and ended up competing for the win. Because then he'd obviously just been saving himself.

And very likely ended up in a break because his captain crashed out or lost significant amount of time because he was not good enough.

 

[Rollthedice]

The hair is ready to pop out of the helmet.

 

[Tinnekeisabella]

The hair is ready to pop out of the helmet.

He and his hair are ready

 

[RedheadDane]

The hair is ready to pop out of the helmet.

Pogacar could shave his hair off, and it would still find a way to pop out of the helmet.

 

[Red Rick]

Nobody can convince me that hair wasn't cut off months ago and isn't just part of his helmet now.

 

[Lequack]

Helmet hair back in order

 

[houtdffan]

It's 2021 and I'm still question where the "Majka bad teammate" comes from.

Pra Loup stage of 2015 when Majka turned his radio off so he wouldn't have to drop back and help Contador after his crash.

Sagan was far more useful, hanging with the lead group over the Allos and giving Contador his bike after the crash

 

[Tinnekeisabella]

Pra Loup stage of 2015 when Majka turned his radio off so he wouldn't have to drop back and help Contador after his crash.

Sagan was far more useful, hanging with the lead group over the Allos and giving Contador his bike after the crash

Well that is 6 years ago, a lot could have changed now. He might have much more hope to so a good GC himself. I think he does not make himself any illusions on UAE. He was hired to help Tadej. And they seem to have invested building up a bond between them by letting them train mostly together.

I think if there is one on that team that will go his own way, it will be Hirschi. Unfortunately he got into the crashes today so we might never know.

 

[RedheadDane]

Now for the big question: Is anyone gonna get him out of the white before Paris?



(Other than himself, if he takes yellow, but then he'll still be in white, even if he's not necessarily wearing it.)

 

[Tinnekeisabella]

Now for the big question: Is anyone gonna get him out of the white before Paris?



(Other than himself, if he takes yellow, but then he'll still be in white, even if he's not necessarily wearing it.)

I believe he might lose the white maybe in stages to follow, but yes, in the end he will wear it in Paris.
That is of course if he does not crash

 

[BlueRoads]

I don't see who he could lose it to, unless he crashes.

 

[Lequack]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1408824138928693250

View: https://twitter.com/VelonCC/status/1408824138928693250?s=20

 

[geisterhome]

Helmet hair back in order

He should get a proper ridershaircut, this is riddiculous.

 

[Tinnekeisabella]

He should get a proper ridershaircut, this is riddiculous.

The Pogi Fluff is a registered Trademark, no scissors allowed near it

 

[Pantani_lives]

At the moment it looks like the Tour could be another battle between the two Slovenians, although you can't rule out Ineos, because of their collective strength. Roglic is out for revenge and wants to repeat his tactics from the Vuelta.

The two time trials might be crucial, because the differences in the mountains might be limited. It wouldn't be bad for Pogacar if Roglic took yellow on Wednesday in the time trial. That could mean Jumbo has to control the race for the next ten days or so.

UAE look strong and motivated, but we don't know yet if they can control the Tour as a team. Several of his teammates were involved in the crash yesterday. Pogacar's best chances to attack are probably in the third week, with the tough finishes on the Col du Portet and Luzardiden. The ultimate decision might be in the final time trial.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

At the moment it looks like the Tour could be another battle between the two Slovenians, although you can't rule out Ineos, because of their collective strength. Roglic is out for revenge and wants to repeat his tactics from the Vuelta.

The two time trials might be crucial, because the differences in the mountains might be limited. It wouldn't be bad for Pogacar if Roglic took yellow on Wednesday in the time trial. That could mean Jumbo has to control the race for the next ten days or so.

UAE look strong and motivated, but we don't know yet if they can control the Tour as a team. Several of his teammates were involved in the crash yesterday. Pogacar's best chances to attack are probably in the third week, with the tough finishes on the Col du Portet and Luzardiden. The ultimate decision might be in the final time trial.

Yes, I agree that Roglic will look to gain some time over Pogacar in the TTs and bonuses (although the latter is capable of winning seconds as well) and control the young Slovenian in the mountains with the power of his team. However, If the difference is small Roglic will try to isolate and attack Pogacar in the mountains not counting on the last TT this time. Two flat TTs are better for Roglic than any of recent TdF editions.