Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[sam6]

2 things. Kuss didn't ride full gas (by that I mean fighting for the GC) during Giro and Tour. In Vuelta, Jumbo gifted him a GC win.

Yes, but Pogi didn't ride full gas, at least not in the Giro

And, Kuss was probably in his best-ever form in the Vuelta. Yes, he was gifted the win, but, ordinarily, you'd expect Vingegaard and Roglic to beat him. He was slightly worse than them because he is not as good a rider, not because of fatigue. This shows it's possible for Pogi to be in close to his best form

 

[scribers]

Plus Kuss looks bad this year since. Not saying the treble is the problem, but it’s not not the problem

 

[sam6]

Plus Kuss looks bad this year since. Not saying the treble is the problem, but it’s not not the problem

He was taken out of the Tour because of Covid. Any yes, his form in the spring wasn't great but his form in the spring has never been amazing. in 2023 he didn't ride much before the Giro, in 2022 and 2021 his pre Dauphine form was similar to this year

 

[Miha81]

Reading this it seems he is really enjoying final rest day. I hope that browny won't backfire

"Jonas Vingegaard really came for the win. He showed balls, finally" - Tadej Pogacar in jovial mood on Tour de France rest day

Barring any major disasters or strokes of bad luck,

cyclinguptodate.com

 

[James M]

Giro + Tour + Worlds has been done by Merckx, Stephen Roache and van Vleuten in the women's. So it would be a crazy achievement but it has been done before. Giro + Tour + Vuelta in a season has never been done. We saw last year it is possible to still win the Vuelta after riding Giro+Tour by Kuss

For me as I said Pogacar is already the best of all time by a hugeee margin. Greatness sure and I agree of course it would be awesome in terms of that but what my point was more so the effects on the body on the upcoming seasons than anything else I'm sure it would be doable. No problem seeing what you mean though and your not alone seen other also mention it in media. But yeah thats just my personal taste on that wouldnt personally rate that as high as I do the performances overall and how its done.

For what its worth I think he woulda done it if not for the WC route this year and if he decides that the WC is more important for him then that, that debate is kind of settled. (who knows might change I doubt it but who knows) Whatever it is will be cool if it happens lets just see and I totally understand what your saying.

 

[scribers]

All this apeculation is fun conversation. But can you imagine having someone in the forum with insight into pog’s and his handler’s thinking in real time before media does? I know, crazy to think.

 

[James M]

And if he becomes World Champion, UAE will have to give him a proper jersey. The UCI ain't gonna stand for nonsense like this:

(Just imagine rainbow stripes instead of Slovenian bands)

If that was to happen. Your so right!

 

[Netserk]

I know it’s bit subjective but atleast you can argue that this Tour has 5 real mountain stages. We have had 3 already and Pog won them all, two are left. I think winning them all would be a feat and the question is if it’s ever been done before.

Closest is Armstrong in 2004. He gifted the first MTF to Basso, won the other 4 mountain stages.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

I think if this season didn't have the olympics a treble would've been possible. I just can't see it fit in a schedule that requires to keep it at 100% even in the week after the tour

 

[Bombarolo]

reduced weight, increased strength, improved posture on the TT bike, solved the problem with heat, improved w/kg and especially on long hills of 35-50 min duration, solved the problem of a bad trainer and consequent fatigue after the altitude camp, and before all these changes and progress was the best cyclist in the world, I think it is clear to everyone what will happen soon...

Jesus Christ, this all tracks.
Let' s see this third week.

I never understood why Pogacar was suffering the heat so much. Ok, it's normal to perform better in specific conditions, but he was struggling so much in hot days that never made any sense to me.

Now it seems there was a reason for that.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I think if this season didn't have the olympics a treble would've been possible. I just can't see it fit in a schedule that requires to keep it at 100% even in the week after the tour

Olympics will not mess his season. He will go there after a solid vacations and Paris is very close to his home so no, it wouldn't mess with his preparation even if he wanted to do the Vuelta.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Jesus Christ, this all tracks.
Let' s see this third week.

I never understood why Pogacar was suffering the heat so much. Ok, it's normal to perform better in specific conditions, but he was struggling so much in hot days that never made any sense to me.

Now it seems there was a reason for that.

"Mouism" is getting stronger and stronger. Another new CN member idolizes Mou! And he is gone and dead since April! Mouism at his best!

 

[Monsi]

And if he becomes World Champion, UAE will have to give him a proper jersey. The UCI ain't gonna stand for nonsense like this:

(Just imagine rainbow stripes instead of Slovenian bands)

UCI are very strict to what they want to see in a rainbow jersey so if Pogi becomes the World Champion, his rainbow jersey should look similar to any usual rainbow jersey that we have seen already. Just change the team logo and sponsors with the same large size of rainbow bands. I guess the red background around the Emirates logo would be changed to black as well.

 

[SHAD0W93]

"Mouism" is getting stronger and stronger. Another new CN member idolizes Mou! And he is gone and dead since April! Mouism at his best!

Mou vs Vino 2024

 

[RedheadDane]

Olympics will not mess his season. He will go there after a solid vacations and Paris is very close to his home so no, it wouldn't mess with his preparation even if he wanted to do the Vuelta.

Doesn't he live in Monaco? That's 953.3 km from Paris.

 

[James M]

Doesn't he live in Monaco? That's 953.3 km from Paris.

Thats 2 hour soft pedaling for him. No worries just take the TT bike there before the race.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Free Chairman Mou!

 

[scribers]

Olympics will not mess his season. He will go there after a solid vacations and Paris is very close to his home so no, it wouldn't mess with his preparation even if he wanted to do the Vuelta.

Does he race to win is the only question mark on how much impact it would have. There are guys racing now and not racing now who have targeted the Olympics for purpose.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Doesn't he live in Monaco? That's 953.3 km from Paris.

Yes, he does. That's an hour flight.

 

[RedheadDane]

Yes, he does. That's an hour flight.

And how much time to get onto the flight?

Sorry, "really close" is within 10 Ks.
Almost a 1000 Ks definitely isn't really close.

 

[Peyroteo94]

And how much time to get onto the flight?

Sorry, "really close" is within 10 Ks.
Almost a 1000 Ks definitely isn't really close.

Ok sorry. It is not far from his home like Tokyo was. Better?

 

[FroomeWagon]

Jesus Christ, this all tracks.
Let' s see this third week.

I never understood why Pogacar was suffering the heat so much. Ok, it's normal to perform better in specific conditions, but he was struggling so much in hot days that never made any sense to me.

Now it seems there was a reason for that.

Sorry, my response was in the wrong forum.

 

[memyselfandI]

Reading this it seems he is really enjoying final rest day. I hope that browny won't backfire

"Jonas Vingegaard really came for the win. He showed balls, finally" - Tadej Pogacar in jovial mood on Tour de France rest day

Barring any major disasters or strokes of bad luck,

cyclinguptodate.com

Most of the food them pros and we eat, will backfire in a way or another, hopefully. Thats how gastrics work, well ....

I just read Remco said Pogi is on another planet now, which I don't belive. Pogi actually is in a planet where Jonas normally is and Jonas has found himself from a planet where Pogi resides typically, it's kinda weird but seeimly possible.

It's the wrong trousers, Pogi!

 

[James M]

I find these small videos many teams does to be interesting and nice watch.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93Ut9BfCmMI

 

[James M]

I just read Remco said Pogi is on another planet now, which I don't belive. Pogi actually is in a planet where Jonas normally is

You might think that which is okei but your wrong. Jonas have never been better than he is now why is that hard to get when he says it himself literally? Nvm the numbers which also dont lie. Beating a lesser version of Pogacar and never the full version never made you that. Remco like everyone else ofc knows this.