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Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

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Hugo Koblet said:
Pogacar is now on 9 GT stage wins this year and I think it's fair to speculate that he's not done yet. When was the last time someone won more GT stages than that in a single season?

Petacchi won 9 in the Giro in 2005, and Hinault won 9 in the Tour and Giro combined in 1982, but who was the last on 10 or more in a season? Is the answer simply Maertens?
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Petacchi won 15 in 2003.
 
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Hugo Koblet said:
Pogacar is now on 9 GT stage wins this year and I think it's fair to speculate that he's not done yet. When was the last time someone won more GT stages than that in a single season?

Petacchi won 9 in the Giro in 2005, and Hinault won 9 in the Tour and Giro combined in 1982, but who was the last on 10 or more in a season? Is the answer simply Maertens?
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Petacchi in 2003 and 2004
 
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mou said:
I'm afraid for the peloton in Liège and at the opening of the Giro, you will see the best athlete in the history of sport, no one has ever been at this level, and I sincerely wish for the fisherman to recover and be fit for the tour, so that only then can you see what absolute dominance over the most difficult sport in the world is with all the stars present and after this year there are no more top 6, top 4 and similar nonsense, there will only be the God of cycling and his fellow fans...
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Vingegaard might consider retiring after seeing such prophecies made 4 months ago now going viral on twitter.
 
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Peyroteo94 said:
Only a crash can take him out and let's see if he will feel Giro's fatigue in stage 19. Visma will do a second all in there so Pogacar can win another minute on Vingegaard if he can follow his wheel.
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If he gets sick its over the chances is not high but regardless who it is if you get ill you cant compete at this level in endurance sport like this. Whoever it is just would be a lame way. Same goes for crashes as you say for sure.
 
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Peyroteo94 said:
Only a crash can take him out and let's see if he will feel Giro's fatigue in stage 19. Visma will do a second all in there so Pogacar can win another minute on Vingegaard if he can follow his wheel.
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If Pogacar fails in a stage with sucessive long climbs will be no new, so Giro has nothing on that, as he said Giro was the same than if he was training. It would have been worse for himn to ride Dauophine to win, will be more tired.
 
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I think the chance is nearly 0 that Pogi will ride the Vuelta. Even after riding only 1 GT (TDF) the last years, he was totally dead at the Tour and really had to recover quite a long period (San Sebastian was too soon). In Glasgow, he seemed more dead than alive. So I think he will just focus on the WC (with a route suited to him) and Lombardia.
This year is turning out to be a historical one, but Pogi should be careful to not completely burn out, leading to long term damage.

Next year it's time for the Tour + Vuelta double, and hopefully also some cobble classics (also Roubaix?) in the spring. And fix the team for San Remo and win that ciciban race.
 
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mou said:
I'm afraid for the peloton in Liège and at the opening of the Giro, you will see the best athlete in the history of sport, no one has ever been at this level, and I sincerely wish for the fisherman to recover and be fit for the tour, so that only then can you see what absolute dominance over the most difficult sport in the world is with all the stars present and after this year there are no more top 6, top 4 and similar nonsense, there will only be the God of cycling and his fellow fans...
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You are an absolute legend mate.

Shut everyone up and won over your haters.
 
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Sybrand said:
I think the chance is nearly 0 that Pogi will ride the Vuelta. Even after riding only 1 GT (TDF) the last years, he was totally dead at the Tour and really had to recover quite a long period (San Sebastian was too soon). In Glasgow, he seemed more dead than alive. So I think he will just focus on the WC (with a route suited to him) and Lombardia.
This year is turning out to be a historical one, but Pogi should be careful to not completely burn out, leading to long term damage.

Next year it's time for the Tour + Vuelta double, and hopefully also some cobble classics (also Roubaix?) in the spring. And fix the team for San Remo and win that ciciban race.
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Yeah, I agree.

Get the team he wants for MSR, take his pick for the stage-races in that period and then LBL. Suisse/Dauphine and then Tour + Vuelta.

PR might not happen next year, I believe. Maybe or probably 2026.
 
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I think MSR, but especially PR is overrated in this part of his career. Plenty of time for Roubaix, but I don't think now is the time. After all, it requires some rather specific training compared to RVV and MSR even, and I don't think you wanna mess too much with thats going on right now. But then again, if his new training means he's FTP is that much improved, then why wouldn't that translate for Roubaix
 
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Valv.Piti said:
I think MSR, but especially PR is overrated in this part of his career. Plenty of time for Roubaix, but I don't think now is the time. After all, it requires some rather specific training compared to RVV and MSR even, and I don't think you wanna mess too much with thats going on right now. But then again, if his new training means he's FTP is that much improved, then why wouldn't that translate for Roubaix
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Exactly. 100% agree with this.
 
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Drew said:
And now, he is back on Twitter :tearsofjoy:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1813119692543840405
View: https://x.com/mou55981652/status/1813119692543840405?t=K3vhAoxL6CVaaAzp2CfoTQ&s=19
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James M said:
That Pogacar is the best rider of all time does that make you mad? If so why?
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Pogacar is the best rider of this generation and one of the best of all times. I love Pogacar as rider and personally, and I think he will win this Tour with more advantage he has now.

But of course it will be no a surprise if he lost some time, or even lose the ITT with Vingegaard (I dont think so becouse Pogacar is a better ITT rider) or even now I consider the possibility he lost the Tour. When I watched at the route in winter, even without considering any crash of any favourite and a best Visma team, I think Pogacar will win, becouse he is very good, and he can only have problems at long stages with lot of long climbs and no flat sections and with hot. The only stage I watched he could fail a little is la Bonette one, but it is short. For Vingegaard it is not easy to drop him becouse his attack is no so powerfull as Pogacar one. He need people like Kuss for that,a lthough Jorgesson could be close. But he is a better endurance climber if they are both well, so you never knows and everything still can happend. Wont be a big surprise for me...the same that if evenepole crack and lose 10 minutes. (I dont think so anyway)

I only said that Giro IMO is not a factor againts Pogacar, more the contrary. Landa did his best Tour after a good Giro where he was fighteen a lot everyday. He finished much more tired than Pogacar and he did spanish nationals. And even after le Tour, in Burgos, he was very strong.

Of course it has big merit the double he is likely to get, but not becouse he started le Tour worse than if he didnt ride Giro.

Hope I have explain myself.
 
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