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Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

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It is an opinion and it has his arguments. I have just another. Vingegaard was close to doesnt start this Tour, he was one month on hospital. If some people think wrist issue of Pogacar was a problem, imagine Viggo injuries.

We will see a new Viggo after this rest day, it is normal when you didnt get optimal to a 3 weeks race to be stronger last week, he needed this rest day.

At the level Pogacar is showing I think there is nothing to do, but if the 19 stage would have another climb at the begining, an stage with at least 180 km, I will say the race will be now 50-50. Now I see 90-10. Next stage is even shorter, but it all up and down, it is the last and you never knows. By the way. when you com pred times of climbing, I just remeber now that Le Couillole, who they climb that day and it climbed at Mercan Tour classic, was climbed better by Froome 2 years ago than Pogacar later at le Tour. and there was bettel at the climb on le Tour by Pogacar. And of course Froome now is not climbing better than Pogacar. You can take some conclusion of those numbers itself, but not too much.
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The longer & the harder the stage the better for the 2024 pog!
 
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The longer & the harder the stage the better for the 2024 pog!
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It is possible, I dont say no. But if it is that way I think is becouse Vingegaard didnt have the best preparation. But we wiull see, we ahave still hard climbs despite short stages. Pogacar has a superecovey, that I remember Matxin explained at his first Tour as maybe his best superquality...but I think Vingegaard has even better, wich is crazy. We will se, I think is Pogacar year, but we will see a moment as that in Ventoux when an al ost unknow Vingegaard droped Pogacar at Ventoux..just a litle. Hope to see that this year still, but we coudl see a dominance from Pogacar as we have seen many times on le Tour for a lot of riders. No problem on that.
 
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It is possible, I dont say no. But if it is that way I think is becouse Vingegaard didnt have the best preparation. But we wiull see, we ahave still hard climbs despite short stages. Pogacar has a superecovey, that I remember Matxin explained at his first Tour as maybe his best superquality...but I think Vingegaard has even better, wich is crazy. We will se, I think is Pogacar year, but we will see a moment as that in Ventoux when an al ost unknow Vingegaard droped Pogacar at Ventoux..just a litle. Hope to see that this year still, but we coudl see a dominance from Pogacar as we have seen many times on le Tour for a lot of riders. No problem on that.
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Ok let's try this a few times and see if it sticks......

Vingo said he is doing his best numbers ever right now. I guess you can say he might have had more race days since his crash, but saying he could have been better is not a real thing.
 
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It is possible, I dont say no. But if it is that way I think is becouse Vingegaard didnt have the best preparation. But we wiull see, we ahave still hard climbs despite short stages. Pogacar has a superecovey, that I remember Matxin explained at his first Tour as maybe his best superquality...but I think Vingegaard has even better, wich is crazy. We will se, I think is Pogacar year, but we will see a moment as that in Ventoux when an al ost unknow Vingegaard droped Pogacar at Ventoux..just a litle. Hope to see that this year still, but we coudl see a dominance from Pogacar as we have seen many times on le Tour for a lot of riders. No problem on that.
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I can see you are new to this thread. Going back to the past tours and hoping it is gonna happen again is not gonna work this year. pog 2024 is a different person with the new coach. Think of vingegaards yearly improvements since 2020 and copy paste it to what pog is gonna be with his new coach from this year on. After the next years tour ving might consider going back to the fish factory coz even giro is not an option as it will be pogs preparation race.
 
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I can see you are new to this thread. Going back to the past tours and hoping it is gonna happen again is not gonna work this year. pog 2024 is a different person with the new coach. Think of vingegaards yearly improvements since 2020 and copy paste it to what pog is gonna be with his new coach from this year on. After the next years tour ving might consider going back to the fish factory coz even giro is not an option as it will be pogs preparation race.
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I want that coach, do you have his phone number?
 
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Pogacar sprinted the other day to be 9th at the best sporonters of the world, when he could droped and get the same time. I understand you want to prove with the best sprinters in the best race of the world, but if you are the leader, you have to be very sure you are going to win, and that for me was amazing, so maybe you are right
 
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And a couple more Roubaix, MSR, WC and Ronde’s
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Wc two years in a row with this years course and Rwandas next year mountainous course, Ronde, every time he participates, roubaix his agent said in the 2nd part of his career but msr is a lottery race where you dont need to be the strongest especially when everyones eyes are on u.
 
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Pogacar sprinted the other day to be 9th at the best sporonters of the world, when he could droped and get the same time. I understand you want to prove with the best sprinters in the best race of the world, but if you are the leader, you have to be very sure you are going to win, and that for me was amazing, so maybe you are right
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He thought he had gapped the GC guys before the crash
 
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Wc two years in a row with this years course and Rwandas next year mountainous course, Ronde, every time he participates, roubaix his agent said in the 2nd part of his career but msr is a lottery race where you dont need to be the strongest especially when everyones eyes are on u.
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I think msr can be won tactically. And that’s from the base of the cipressa
 
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Rechtschreibfehler said:
Also it would be a wild experiment to just go for 3 GTs without having the entire year planned out for that. No way they'll risk all the remaining seasons goals for the chance to burn him out.
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I mean, why not, just go full ***. would be fun to watch. I would actually take the entirety of the vuelta on vacations just to watch it whilst pressing f5 on the clinic page.

if he somehow managed to win it along with the Tour would make him the GOAT
 
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