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Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

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Remember when some were “joking” that the Giro shouldn’t be handed to Pogacar and Thomas could win it.

Absolutely humiliated everyone in every race bar one and that could have went his way if MVDP wasn’t there. A huge bounce back and statement win from the last two years. Fired back that he can’t do it in the heat, altitude, or multiple climbs. This season could be one of if not the best ever.
 
Remember when some were “joking” that the Giro shouldn’t be handed to Pogacar and Thomas could win it.

Absolutely humiliated everyone in every race bar one and that could have went his way if MVDP wasn’t there. A huge bounce back and statement win from the last two years. Fired back that he can’t do it in the heat, altitude, or multiple climbs. This season could be one of if not the best ever.
He came back

Real champion
 
Remember when some were “joking” that the Giro shouldn’t be handed to Pogacar and Thomas could win it.
Wait someone actually said that?Thats to funny not to laugh about:tearsofjoy:

Crazy part he is just doing what he did in the GIro even here after the Giro. Ridding away from people uphill so easy likes its children, he is in a entire different league

. I really guess it was zone 2-3 like some people actually said during the Giro. Insane.
 
Pogacar team really impressed me aswell. I knew going in on paper they was out of this world but with the unlucky circumstancse of Ayuso and covid, one huge man down.

Also Wellens clearly sick thats two man down basicly, but still they have been the best and strongest by far even with two soo strong riders down. Thats impressive. Politt really impressed with his climbing legs.

Pog properly inspired him on training, I guess training with the best climber of all time will do that too you...Anyway kudos to the team aswell really impressive considering the circumstances even more so.
 
I dont lie its just facts. I never said Vingegaard isnt a great rider you dont win two tdf if ur not but still what I said is also true and based simply on facts which we know. So when you sum it up its hardly surprising to most all im saying.
You truth tellers are so boring....

But didn't Pogacar claim to have best training numbers in 2023 before the tour as well? Weren't his numbers on some of the stages amazing? In 23, Cautarets?

Facts facts, Vingegaard comes from an injury, like with Pogacar in 23 we simply don't know how he would have performed without it. Doesn't take anything away from Pogacar.
 
You truth tellers are so boring....

But didn't Pogacar claim to have best training numbers in 2023 before the tour as well? Weren't his numbers on some of the stages amazing? In 23, Cautarets?

Facts facts, Vingegaard comes from an injury, like with Pogacar in 23 we simply don't know how he would have performed without it. Doesn't take anything away from Pogacar.
Vingegaard never ridden better thats just the base of it. I agree that this week his prep is hindering him a little which is only natural and that he can be better than this in 3 week properly.

I dont agree that he is close to Pogacar he never has been for that he has to reach a level he has never ever been on thats just reality.
Untill that happen I dont really fancy it at all I would be more worried about Evenpoel I think he is closer to Evenpoel than he is Pogacar. But if it happens then kudos to him but we have to see something which we never has for that. Who knows what the future holds.
 
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This guy will get one of the biggest salary increase of all time
isnt he still by far the best paid cyclist. But agree after watching this year which is the surely will end up beeing the best season of all time? in this era its just outwordly. Greatest of all time so wouldnt surprise me if he got a big pump either, deservedly wheny our the best of all time and now also the best climber of all time...dont know what more to say about this guy other than pure history.
 
Hope he'll change his mind and do the Vuelta as well this year. He'll never get a better opportunity to do the triple. Honestly, he should just ride Worlds, the five monuments and the three grand tours every year. No need to ride anything else, but of course if he wants to win some more, he could add Strade Bianche, the other Ardennes etc. to his schedule as well.
 
Yeah no dude, don't overdo it. He won the Tour twice. You don't do this by chance. Next year he'll be closer to Tadeij. There's no reason to act like Vingegaard is not a top rider.
Even if Visma is saying this Vingo is doing his best numbers ever, I am not sure I totally buy into it. There is psychology in wanting opponents to believe Vingo can't hang next year with pogi.
 
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Visma saying Vingo is doing his best numbers, only thought would be down 2 minutes etc...was just to bait the previous Pogi into attacking too soon for later stage...a repeat of the success of their plan for last 2 years. This year it didn't work...Pogi is better, not injured, smarter, better trained....the plan failed. Not here for second lol (but glued to Remco wheel all day to protect second). They got outclassed. Love to see it. And also will like to see Pogi win with more of a gap than the gap he lost last year. Nice to see the tables turn. Ok Vingo almost died (ok lets go with that fable for the masses) but next year if neither are injured will see a repeat of this year. I like Jonas but not Visma. Glad to see Pogi deny them stage win today and hope he does it through Sunday. They would do it to him if they could as they did already...really like Matteo....but the denial of his win wasn't because of him...Pogi wants bigger gap of win than Visma got of him last year. i like revenge like that in sports. bring it on.
 
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Visma saying Vingo is doing his best numbers, only thought would be down 2 minutes etc...was just to bait the previous Pogi into attacking too soon for later stage...a repeat of the success of their plan for last 2 years. This year it didn't work...Pogi is better, not injured, smarter, better trained....the plan failed. Not here for second lol (but glued to Remco wheel all day to protect second). They got outclassed. Love to see it. And also will like to see Pogi win with more of a gap than the gap he lost last year. Nice to see the tables turn. Ok Vingo almost died (ok lets go with that fable for the masses) but next year if neither are injured will see a repeat of this year. I like Jonas but not Visma. Glad to see Pogi deny them stage win today and hope he does it through Sunday. They would do it to him if they could as they did already
No doubt Visma and Vingegaard, Wout, Sepp and others revelled in last year's dominance and the adoration of fans. I don't wish riders any ill will (except Lusenko shedding tears when he had to quit but no remorse for taking out Primoz) but they kept talking. Jonas was used to try to break any UAE affiliation with Remco but with Roglic out of the picture it became a simple game of a stronger team wiping out support stage after stage.
How deep does that sting, Plugge?

I'd even call it karmic and hope next year there are more guys standing in the end.