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Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

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What's with all the laughing emojis?

You wrote it yourself..."If Pogacar is at this level and not worse than this for some reason"...that's exactly the point. A lot of things must go right to get to this level. Holding it is even harder. I'm not saying he won't be this good again, but it's just not guaranteed.
Thats true sorry my bad I just came home from a walk I have a hard time controling my emotion or actually grasping how good he is or how lucky we are to watch him cause theres never in history been anyone like him.

Are we watching the best cycling season of all time unfolds right infront of our eyes and in this era which is so specialized too?o_O
 
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Let's go with a timely update.

Hoping for a World Championship win this year to cap off what would be (one of) the greatest season ever.


Tadej Pogacar "Whole Calendar" Slam Watchlist (also considering podiums)

1. Grand Tours:
Tour de France X3 (2020, 2021, 2024), 2nd (2022, 2023)
Giro de Italia: X (2024)
Vuelta a España: 3rd (2019)

2. Monuments:
Milano San Remo: 3rd (2024)
Ronde Van Vlaanderen: X (2023)
Paris Roubaix: TBA
Liege Bastogne Liege: X2 (2021, 2024), 3rd (2020)
Giro di Lombardia: X4 (2021,2022,2023, 2024)

3. World Championships and Olympic Races:
Olympic Road Race: 3rd (Tokyo 2020 -held in 2021-)
Olympic Time Trial: TBA
World Championship Road Race: X (2024), 3rd (2023)
World Championship Time Trial: -

4. One Week Races:
París Nice: X (2023)
Tirreno-Adriático: X2 (2021, 2022)
Volta a Catalunya: X (2024)
Itzulia: 3rd (2021)
Tour de Romandie: TBA
Criterium du Dauphine: -
Tour de Suisse: TBA

5. Other Significant Races:
Omloop Het Volk / Het Nieuwsblad: TBA
UAE Tour (sigh): X2 (2021, 2022)
Strade Bianche: X2 (2022, 2024)
E3 Harelbeke: 3rd (2023)
Gent Wevelgem: TBA
Brabantse Pijl: TBA
Amstel Gold Race: X (2023)
Fleche Wallone: X (2023)
San Sebastian: -
Giro dell Emilia: X (2024), 2nd (2022, 2023)
París - Tours: TBA

6. Stage Wins:
Giro de Italia Stage Wins: 6
Tour de France Stage Wins: 17
Vuelta a España Stage Wins: 3
Total GT Stage Wins: 26
Total Pro Wins: 88

7. "Minor" Accolades:
x2 GP Montréal (2022, 2024), x2 Tour of Slovenia (2021, 2022), Tre Valli Varesine (2022), Tour of California (2019), Volta ao Algarve (2019), x2 Slovenian ITT Championships (2019, 2023), Slovenian Road Race Championships (2023).

Notes:
(1) "Other Significant Races" is a non-comprehensive list of races outside the well established and common accepted three categories (GT, Monuments, Seven "Historically/Traditional" One Week Races)
(2) "Minor Accolades" include another non-comprehensive list of other races won that might be missed by some users.
The aim is not to argue about which are the most relevant races but to keep track of which I feel are the most prestigious events regardless of the current official category.
 
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The GT treble is not historical because the schedule of the three never aligned well and the vuelta was not as prominent an event as it is now. That said, the treble has not been done because the double was insanely difficult to do, not since 1998 has the double been achieved. The triple crown has not been achieved since the 80’s and rarely at all historically. This pogi can do without a big risk of burnout
Froom did it not too long ago (17'-18?).

In the '80s the Vuelta was in the spring so a true thrupple wasn't possible.
 
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Nothing else to say anymore besides THANK YOU for every cycling fan who are just speechless that we get to witness history right in front of our eyes. Its truly the history in every race he goes into from now on and its hard to believe.

This performance after the giro I dont need to say anything its no need it speak itself, numbers etc its just yeah history were witnessing every race he will win and enters from now on. Its truly remarkable and hard to fathom how lucky we are.
 
The reality is that the duo will never start the TdF without some excuse-relating preparational things, one of them will always have the edge. If anyway a miracle happen and both arrive fully fit and ready, there may be some dark swans as in 2014 or 2006, God forbid. Life is too complicated and unpredictable.

The way the 2024 TdF unfolded makes me look at the previous editions at a bit different perspective. The stages where Vinegaard secured his wins - Granon and Courchevel - stand out from logic of their battles. On Granon Pogačar simply bonked, now I'm inclined to believe it. Otherwise 5-7 other riders wouldnt have beat him on that day. Courchevel is harder to judge, but most likely Pogačar was missing racing base. Anyway only top or near-top form is what he vitally needs to outclimb Vinegaard.
 
Crazy, successful year for Pogacar. Dominated every race he entered bar MSR and that could have been a win as well if MVDP wasn’t there. Detractors said after each domination it wouldn’t happen again at the next race but he provided them and everyone else wrong since no one excepted this level. Not only came back to win the Tour but did so in dominate fashion on the back of dominating the Giro. People said it wouldn’t be easy, but turns out it is if you’re Tadej Pogacar.