Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[James M]

kinda sucks aswell he wont do the vuelta even though ive always said it make the most sense from coming years apective but I mean he would win it hes the least tired from them all and yeah im sure he would but im just not sure how he would react after it, might be to much and theres all the reason not to do it.

The tripple crown would be awesome. If he could add a WC title would be just brilliant so no small feat. Lets see exciting times for sure.

 

[scribers]

Can we take a moment and reflect on Roglic picking two more dangerous sports to take his skillset to?

 

[Bombarolo]

Joined an elite group today

26 years since the last Giro Tour double.

 

[snipeheem]

Joined an elite group today

26 years since the last Giro Tour double.

The goat climber before Pog arrived

 

[tobydawq]

Is it true that the German commentator said at one point towards the end of the TT that history has shown that we shouldn't believe everything we're seeing, especially not in cycling? If so, it's a completely different approach than what I was presented with here. I like it.

Yes, what a terrific way to approach it from a national broadcaster.

 

[hayneplane]

Not quite:
If I have my calculations correct, Pogacar will have 4973 CQ points when it is updated overnight.

He took 1632 points during the Tour: someone with that over a whole season would have come 12th last year.

4273 points for this calendar year from 21 wins out of 52 race days. A 40% win rate which is unfathomably high and he has only competed in world tour races this year so no points farming in tiny races.

 

[Danskebjerge]

Yes, what a terrific way to approach it from a national broadcaster.

Promoting naivety is of course worse.

 

[Peyroteo94]

He is 25 years old and has the same career wins as Roglic

 

[Danskebjerge]

I watched the rest of the stage for the coverage being a minute faster almost on ARD, I don't recall that. But before Carsten Migels has said on ES noumerous times during this Tour that given cyclings history, questions are allways fair game, but if you accuse someone openly of doping, you need to put that on a basis.

Where is 'here' though. The forum, where you live?

I heard that it was on ARD. What they said in the Danish broadcast, was the same as the statement you are referring to, but they very rarely talk about doping issues - they did it here because they were making various conclusions on the final day of the Tour, as many other broadcasters probably have done.

 

[Danskebjerge]

You mean like the moon landing was staged in a hollywood movie set?

German television have actually investigated the doping issue to get closer to the truth - as opposed to 99 percent of other media.

 

[scribers]

Did they find anything besides innuendo they created?

 

[RobertCrawley]

Tadej got the question and gave a great answer:

"There will always be doubts, cycling was a sport that had a very troubled past, before my time. There will always be people, whatever the sport, who are jealous of you, who hate you. If there aren't any, you probably haven't achieved your goals. WADA and the UCI have invested a lot of money to make this sport clean, and I believe it is one of the cleanest in the world. Now it's not worth taking something that could have an impact on your health, your heart, to go faster until age 35. After 35 years, there is still a lot to live and do. That would be stupid. Cycling is a game, it's fun, it's amusing, we want to win, but that's not the most important thing. Pushing his body even further would be stupid."

Large vainqueur du Tour, Tadej Pogacar a réagi sur les soupçons de dopage : « Ce serait stupide »

Tadej Pogacar a évacué les doutes sur ses performances, au cours d'une conférence de presse d'après-Tour où il a régné en maître, et dressé un bilan complet de son Tour de France.

www.lequipe.fr

 

[BullsFan22]

German television have actually investigated the doping issue to get closer to the truth - as opposed to 99 percent of other media.

A lot of that was purely political, starting in 2014…

 

[jmdirt]

You changed the discussion to triple crown and then tripled down on it

Yes, and no. Initially I thought the discussion was winning all three GTs in a succession (we all know that no one has done it in a calendar year). You said something about it not being done since the '80s and I replied that Froom did it a few years back, but then 'triple crown' got put in and I ran with that still thinking about winning all three GTs. My bad for not reading carefully, while doing too many things at once.

Well really this all started with the idea of TP winning all three GTs in this calendar year.

 

[Danskebjerge]

A lot of that was purely political, starting in 2014…

I don't know what you mean.

 

[jmdirt]

Not very. Its only recently the Giro & Vuelta haven't both been held in May.

Which I posted above...

 

[Izzyeviel]

Which I posted above...

either way, the triple crown should be considered all 3 GT's in the same year. Anyway, we all know Pog won't do the Vuelta because he's afraid of GC Kuss.

 

[BullsFan22]

I don't know what you mean.

well you haven’t followed it closely

 

[SHAD0W93]

Think Pogacar’s biggest opponent at the Tour was the sign on stage 5.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Anyway, we all know Pog won't do the Vuelta because he's afraid of GC Kuss.

Finally a poster with the courage to speak the truth.
GC Kuss is about to go vroom.

 

[BullsFan22]

Will he ride at the Olympics?

 

[scribers]

Will he ride at the Olympics?

Yes. He said so at least

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

Will he ride at the Olympics?

He's on the starlist, the race is in less than 2 weeks so I guess form should not be the issue.
With the field being ridiculously small, the largest teams getting 4 riders, which thins out dramatically, it's gonna be wild I guess, given the race is 275km long! I think there's just gonna be a super group that goes really early, and from that he should have a decent shot at getting rid of them, even though there's only a 1k not so steep cobbled hill to go on. But that comes after 227k and overall 3 times in the last 50. It's not exactly a dream parcour for him, but he might just sail away alone or with Remco and VdP never to be seen again because no one got any domestiques to pull anyways.

 

[iBanesto]

'I want to take it from him' - Pogacar sets sights on Van der Poel's rainbow jersey after Tour win

Tadej Pogacar won Stage 21 to seal overall victory at the 2024 Tour de France, and after sealing the Giro-Tour double, now has his eyes on the rainbow jersey.

www.eurosport.com

In a warning to the current champion, Pogacar said: “[Mathieu] van der Poel looks really good in the world champion’s jersey but I want to take it from him. I want one time to have the rainbow jersey on my back but I still have time for that."

 

[Oldermanish]

'I want to take it from him' - Pogacar sets sights on Van der Poel's rainbow jersey after Tour win

Tadej Pogacar won Stage 21 to seal overall victory at the 2024 Tour de France, and after sealing the Giro-Tour double, now has his eyes on the rainbow jersey.

www.eurosport.com

In a warning to the current champion, Pogacar said: “[Mathieu] van der Poel looks really good in the world champion’s jersey but I want to take it from him. I want one time to have the rainbow jersey on my back but I still have time for that."

After saying that he should just look for MvP's wheel and stick with it.