Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[scribers]

I think he should have competed in Paris. Form of his life, possibly the highest level a rider has ever reached in modern cycling history just before an Olympics and with no guarantees for LA 2028 aged 29. I think he risks a career without an Olympic win which seems incomplete for him.

Ciciban race

 

[scribers]

Lol. What mythical competitors are these? Literally everyone showed up across the two races

If I am reading this right, he says Horner thinks pogi should to the vueta because everyone worth a salt pogi has destroyed already in previous GT's and the Vuelta 2024 is a dream opportunity for the GT treble.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

Lol. What mythical competitors are these? Literally everyone showed up across the two races

True aswell, as of the Tour line up, but in the other races? The Giro was a forgone conclusion and in Liege there was no one to challenge him, neither was there in Catalunya. You can make the point that no one is remotely close to him this year, so it doesn't matter. But than the point would stand, that he can't expect noone to be near him forever.

Just to be clear: I think doing the treble without really preparing is is probably a stupid idea.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

If I am reading this right, he says Horner thinks pogi should to the vueta because everyone worth a salt pogi has destroyed already in previous GT's and the Vuelta 2024 is a dream opportunity for the GT treble.

He's saying he's destroyed them without having to go all out in his opinion, so he assumes that he'll never get the chance to do the attempt as fresh as this year again.

 

[iBanesto]

Probably partying too hard.

 

[Amazinmets87]

I think he should have competed in Paris. Form of his life, possibly the highest level a rider has ever reached in modern cycling history just before an Olympics and with no guarantees for LA 2028 aged 29. I think he risks a career without an Olympic win which seems incomplete for him.

29 is basically peak age for a road cyclist.

 

[gunara]

I think he risks a career without an Olympic win which seems incomplete for him.

Is that even a big deal? Let some next tier stars battle for the Olympic

 

[scribers]

I just listen to the Horner podcast trying to talk pogi into the treble and I am pumped up now. Let’s do it!!

 

[scribers]

Is that even a big deal? Let some next tier stars battle for the Olympic

No it’s not a big deal. Pros have only been allowed to compete relatively recently so it’s not an absolute historical marker for pogi. Plus he’ll get two more realistic shots at it possibly with better suited parcours

 

[sam6]

Does anyone know what the route will be for LA 2028? Will it be hilly? I don't know exactly what the geography of the region is but I just searched and it says there are "San Gabriel and San Bernardino mountains" which sound promising. How about Brisbane 2032? I think he really screwed up in 2021. That route was perfect for him. This year he would have a chance but he probably wouldn't have won

 

[Berniece]

I wouldn’t select him for the WC if this is the type of behaviour he shows. I find it extremely childish. He is letting his country down.

 

[scribers]

Pogi will picked coaches and that’s how it will be

 

[CyclistAbi]

Congratulations on winning the Tour and a GT double in convincing fashion. Truly a historical feat.

 

[BigCoward]

Just realised Merckx didn't win a monument in the year he did the triple crown (only year he missed in 11 years). So if he wins the WC even without GdL there's a good argument it's the greatest season ever.

 

[dazaau]

True aswell, as of the Tour line up, but in the other races? The Giro was a forgone conclusion and in Liege there was no one to challenge him, neither was there in Catalunya. You can make the point that no one is remotely close to him this year, so it doesn't matter. But than the point would stand, that he can't expect noone to be near him forever.

Just to be clear: I think doing the treble without really preparing is is probably a stupid idea.

Yes, the first part of the year was filled with a series of races where there was an odds on favorite and then daylight to the next best rider. And the results were as expected.

 

[dazaau]

He's saying he's destroyed them without having to go all out in his opinion, so he assumes that he'll never get the chance to do the attempt as fresh as this year again.

I think Pog went pretty all out at the tour. I will admit he still looked pretty fresh however. Any previous version of Pog may not have won this tour, Jonas was surprisingly good.

 

[Salvarani]

I think he should have competed in Paris. Form of his life, possibly the highest level a rider has ever reached in modern cycling history just before an Olympics and with no guarantees for LA 2028 aged 29. I think he risks a career without an Olympic win which seems incomplete for him.

Olympics is not the end of/be all for him and he has a medal.

This route doesnt favor him. Difficult to make much of a difference on the climbs to get away for him and it will be very hard to control.

Winning worlds would be bigger than the Olympics.

Olympics would simply be a nice touch and a nice stat, when it comes to cycling.

Winning worlds after winning the double would mean so much more.

He probably needs a break now mentally more than anything else. Do some crit races and enjoy himself.

 

[BullsFan22]

He’ll still be under 30 by the time the next Olympics roll around.

While it’s a bit disappointing as a fan, I am sure it’s the right decision. Win Worlds and keep rewriting history. I am sure he’ll be one of the favorites for gold come 2028.

 

[velaso montador]

I wouldn’t select him for the WC if this is the type of behaviour he shows. I find it extremely childish. He is letting his country down.

Riding the Giro-Tour double is no excuse to be tired like genuinely who pissed in your bed? OL is second tier compared to WC let someone else have it even though he is the best expecting him to ride everything is not fair.

. OL was never in his plan when they planned his program to begin with.

 

[velaso montador]

Just realised Merckx didn't win a monument in the year he did the triple crown (only year he missed in 11 years. So if he wins the WC even without GdL there's a good argument it's the greatest season ever.

Still Lombardia left too. WC and Lombardia was always the original plan to begin with when they drafted the plan last winter regarding the double. I actually don't think he is done.

 

[Berniece]

Riding the Giro-Tour double is no excuse to be tired like genuinely who pissed in your bed? OL is second tier compared to WC let someone else have it even though he is the best expecting him to ride everything is not fair.

. OL was never in his plan when they planned his program to begin with.

I don't agree with the reason for cancellation. We can all pretend that this is because he's "tired", but it's because of his girlfriend. It's childish, and diva behaviour. When the WC comes up, then he does want to represent his country, because it suits him more.

 

[Salvarani]

Making up narratives never getting old, I guess.

 

[gunara]

I wouldn’t select him for the WC if this is the type of behaviour he shows. I find it extremely childish. He is letting his country down.

If "doing it for country" is a thing in sport, he's put Slovenia on the map just as few other of their top athletes have done. I come from a country with little sport achievement and generally strong nationalistic tendencies, our best athletes make people happy when they do well anywhere, including when not bearing the country flag, and we know there is more than slaving yourself for country's honour in a trife matter called sport when your heart doesn't feel like it.

 

[velaso montador]

I don't agree with the reason for cancellation. We can all pretend that this is because he's "tired", but it's because of his girlfriend. It's childish, and diva behaviour. When the WC comes up, then he does want to represent his country, because it suits him more.

You can assume that I don't.
And the double and then citing tired its not hard to believe but when the plan originally was never to ride it that's the outliner for me.

You can have a different opinion of course . I think its been the plan all along and besides that definitely the best move. Rest is important now - he gonne need it like Evenpoel and others that WC route is awesome for both, that will be a awesome WC.

 

[Berniece]

You can assume that I don't.
And the double and then citing tired its not hard to believe but when the plan originally was never to ride it that's the outliner for me.

You can have a different opinion of course . I think its been the plan all along and besides that definitely the best move. Rest is important now - he gonne need it like Evenpoel and others that WC route is awesome for both, that will be a awesome WC.

It's been the plan all along, which is why he said at first he wanted to ride the Olympic Games. If it was the plan all along, he would've said beforehand he would skip it.