Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[velaso montador]

It's been the plan all along, which is why he said at first he wanted to ride the Olympic Games. If it was the plan all along, he would've said beforehand he would skip it.

Check the statement in februar they state the plan. OL was never in the original plan.
Even if it was I would argue its the best move for him after the double but it never was.

 

[snipeheem]

I don't agree with the reason for cancellation. We can all pretend that this is because he's "tired", but it's because of his girlfriend. It's childish, and diva behaviour. When the WC comes up, then he does want to represent his country, because it suits him more.

I dont know if u are trolling or no

 

[bNator]

I wouldn’t select him for the WC if this is the type of behaviour he shows. I find it extremely childish. He is letting his country down.

Pog did more for the promotion of our country than anyone except maybe Doncic. He's the reason for all the Slovenian flags you saw on your television on Sunday. Noone here thinks he's letting anyone down.

If anything, it's Slovenia who is letting him down by not selecting his partner to join him in the olympic team though she deserved it by merit. Did you check the results of other two girls that were selected? It's a travesty!

 

[velaso montador]

Pog did more for the promotion of our country than anyone except maybe Doncic. He's the reason for all the Slovenian flags you saw on your television on Sunday. Noone here thinks he's letting anyone down.

If anything, it's Slovenia who is letting him down by not selecting his partner to join him in the olympic team though she deserved it by merit. Did you check the results of other two girls that were selected? It's a travesty!

The people have spoken.

Still I dont think it was the original plan it might have changed since its tempting with those legs who knows that might be the case since it changed sure but nevertheless I think its the smart move.. Its clear he has better coach and advisors in everything regarding this stuff than the past, its more carefully planned throughout.

 

[Offline]

I don't agree with the reason for cancellation. We can all pretend that this is because he's "tired", but it's because of his girlfriend. It's childish, and diva behaviour. When the WC comes up, then he does want to represent his country, because it suits him more.

@Berniece do you know the whole story? I'm sure there is two sides of the story.
There is people saying the Slovenian NC women coach have abusive behavior. I'm not saying that's true, but that we don't have the full pictures. So don't think you can call him childish without knowing what's going on.

 

[Berniece]

Pog did more for the promotion of our country than anyone except maybe Doncic. He's the reason for all the Slovenian flags you saw on your television on Sunday. Noone here thinks he's letting anyone down.

If anything, it's Slovenia who is letting him down by not selecting his partner to join him in the olympic team though she deserved it by merit. Did you check the results of other two girls that were selected? It's a travesty!

I thought Roglic was more popular in Slovenia compared to Pogacar? Or that's what I read on this forum. I'm not from Slovenia, so I can't really say much about it.

Check the statement in februar they state the plan. OL was never in the original plan.
Even if it was I would argue its the best move for him after the double but it never was.

When they announced their schedule on the 18th of December 2023, they said he would ride the Olympic Games.

 

[bNator]

I thought Roglic was more popular in Slovenia compared to Pogacar? Or that's what I read on this forum. I'm not from Slovenia, so I can't really say much about it.

Maybe he is though it's not really that clear anymore. But that doesn't relate to anything I wrote in my post. The flags on Sunday were not there for Roglic and the way Pogacar promotes Slovenia abroad has nothing to do with the perception of the two at home.

If anything, it proves my point that it's more Slovenia letting Pog down than the other way around. Though to be honest, I'm not a fan of drama that much and would just accept he is not gonna do it and move on...

 

[James M]

Making up narratives never getting old, I guess.

Ive come to learn that a few people really are emotionally invested in this stuff so making narratives which please them idk its either way weird for me ngl

 

[James M]

Probably partying too hard.

Did he even eat chips too?

 

[Gman]

Him saying no to Olympics is a middle finger to Slovenian OC and womans coach Penko,Urška deseved the spot and was devastated,we understand and he has support from the people,he does need a rest but would 100% go if she was going

 

[Peyroteo94]

Pog did more for the promotion of our country than anyone except maybe Doncic. He's the reason for all the Slovenian flags you saw on your television on Sunday. Noone here thinks he's letting anyone down.

If anything, it's Slovenia who is letting him down by not selecting his partner to join him in the olympic team though she deserved it by merit. Did you check the results of other two girls that were selected? It's a travesty!

Finally a post from a slovenian who completely silence these haters. They are trying everything to make him a bad guy but He is no Lance. He is Tadej! And he is a joy for cycling, on and off the bike!

 

[Peyroteo94]

One thing is clear, Pogacar is a lot more popular than Roglic abroad.

 

[James M]

One thing is clear, Pogacar is a lot more popular than Roglic abroad.

I think Pogacar is unquestionable the most popular rider in the peloton thats just a fact nothing else.
The most liked and its not hard to see why from the way he races. Van der Poel second and its telling isnt it.
Ofcourse will always be a few for different reasons such as dont like he wins over their rider that's normal but that just the way it is.

Dare I say it almost feels like he is the chosen one, I think he can basically can do whatever he wants since he is the chosen one and public opinion wont change, its weird. Its just hard to not like him.

 

[Lequack]

Backstage pass last episode

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJItKgBS73s

 

[samhocking]

Olympics is not the end of/be all for him and he has a medal.

This route doesnt favor him. Difficult to make much of a difference on the climbs to get away for him and it will be very hard to control.

Winning worlds would be bigger than the Olympics.

Olympics would simply be a nice touch and a nice stat, when it comes to cycling.

Winning worlds after winning the double would mean so much more.

He probably needs a break now mentally more than anything else. Do some crit races and enjoy himself.

Sure, but Olympics is far more important than the Worlds outside of Cycling at National level. Afterall in Slovenia the most popular sports are Football, basketball, volleyball, ice hockey, and handball before cycling.
The ability to hit such form is not a guarantee in 4 years as we saw with Froome, Bernal, Dumoulin, Roglic etc one day you are at the top 12 months later out of the game completely not looking like ever returning. The sports marginal gains is moving so fast now and physiological and psychological level so demanding, you won't have a career that will be peaking across more than 2 Olympic cycles / Gold medal chances.

 

[BullsFan22]

One thing is clear, Pogacar is a lot more popular than Roglic abroad.

Well, he is more successful. And Roglič is very successful. Pogačar has just been crushing it.

 

[James M]

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[samhocking]

Does anyone know what the route will be for LA 2028? Will it be hilly? I don't know exactly what the geography of the region is but I just searched and it says there are "San Gabriel and San Bernardino mountains" which sound promising. How about Brisbane 2032? I think he really screwed up in 2021. That route was perfect for him. This year he would have a chance but he probably wouldn't have won

Not announced yet. I'd assume they're gonna take in the sites through the multiple national parks, but equally it could just be a pan flat LA Crit for 200km haha!

 

[Brullnux]

I don't agree with the reason for cancellation. We can all pretend that this is because he's "tired", but it's because of his girlfriend. It's childish, and diva behaviour. When the WC comes up, then he does want to represent his country, because it suits him more.

I don't think it's diva of him. I'm sure a lot of people here have been talked out of a trip by a significant other/partner when the destination is known for its hedonism.

If anything, it's sign that Tadej puts family and monogamy before everything else. Reminds me of Bartali with his dedication to Christian democratic values.

 

[Miha81]

I thought Roglic was more popular in Slovenia compared to Pogacar? Or that's what I read on this forum. I'm not from Slovenia, so I can't really say much about it.

I would say Rogla is more popular with "newborn cyclist fans" that follow cycling since 2018 or so.

We have a group of ex cyclists that follow the sport for many decades and everyone favourite Slovenian cyclist in terms of pure cycling is Pog. Rogla is maybe more likeable due to the fact that he put Slovenian cycling on the map, his unconventional background and never give up attitude if that makes sense.

It was a case in 2020 that Pog was thrown under the bus for what happened in that edition of tour but mostly fueled by Rogla die hard fans.

 

[samhocking]

I don't think it's diva of him. I'm sure a lot of people here have been talked out of a trip by a significant other/partner when the destination is known for its hedonism.

If anything, it's sign that Tadej puts family and monogamy before everything else. Reminds me of Bartali with his dedication to Christian democratic values.

Surely Pogacar would have said it was for family reasons and people would understand. Saying he's too fatigued when even after 3 weeks of GT racing he is producing the best numbers a couple of weeks to go and the race is an hours flight away seems unlikely to be the reason.

 

[Salvarani]

Sure, but Olympics is far more important than the Worlds outside of Cycling at National level. Afterall in Slovenia the most popular sports are Football, basketball, volleyball, ice hockey, and handball before cycling.
The ability to hit such form is not a guarantee in 4 years as we saw with Froome, Bernal, Dumoulin, Roglic etc one day you are at the top 12 months later out of the game completely not looking like ever returning. The sports marginal gains is moving so fast now and physiological and psychological level so demanding, you won't have a career that will be peaking across more than 2 Olympic cycles / Gold medal chances.

Roglic already won a gold for Slovenia. Pog has a bronze.

He just won them the double as well, which is huge and being reported all over the world.

What more can he do?

Are you Slovenian? Or why are making it seem like he is letting anyone down? Just curious

If anyone deserves a break… it’s him.

And this Olympics could be Mohoric chance. Good route for him. He gets a chance to shine and the team riding for him. Could be his only chance to make the country proud in the Olympics.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Pog did more for the promotion of our country than anyone except maybe Doncic. He's the reason for all the Slovenian flags you saw on your television on Sunday. Noone here thinks he's letting anyone down.

If anything, it's Slovenia who is letting him down by not selecting his partner to join him in the olympic team though she deserved it by merit. Did you check the results of other two girls that were selected? It's a travesty!

So what would have been the grounds for selecting Pintar and Bujak?
My impression of Zigart is that she is a pure climber, and so Paris route not well suited to her. Does the route suit Pintar and Bujak better?
Is it a case of "We have no hope at all of a medal, so let's give these women, probably not far off retirement, a chance to call themsleves Olympians" (I realise that doesn't really apply to Bujak, she was in Tokyo)
Is there some beef between Zigart and the federation? There might be now, but was there before the selection?

I know national federations are neither obliged nor accustomed to defending themselves, but if there were to do so, what rationale would they give?

 

[velaso montador]

Surely Pogacar would have said it was for family reasons and people would understand. Saying he's too fatigued when even after 3 weeks of GT racing he is producing the best numbers a couple of weeks to go and the race is an hours flight away seems unlikely to be the reason.

He just won the double has more reason to rest than anyone.

His fiancé he has also every right to stand up for I think most of us would like what are you saying man? Also the route is not the best for him and even though he is Tadej Pogacar he also needs rest for what clearly is his next goal which he has said.

Beside all nonsense its the smartest move.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

I don't think it's diva of him. I'm sure a lot of people here have been talked out of a trip by a significant other/partner when the destination is known for its hedonism.

If anything, it's sign that Tadej puts family and monogamy before everything else. Reminds me of Bartali with his dedication to Christian democratic values.

That's a new take. The implication is that it is impossible to be an Olympian and remain honest to a partner. I would suspect that someone of Pogacar's means would be unlikely to be staying in the Olympic Village unless by choice anyway.