Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Froome]

Your family and friends also deserve some energy that's solely for them, not just whatever you have left when you've done your job.

I didn't mean that when there is time for that, but you know, the life of a professional rider is full of sacrifices, like a lot of weeks far from home.

 

[Rou]

My bad, sorry. My question was, in what climbs of the Tour 1998, Pantani did a VAM of 2000?

Correct. This guy Attia looked like a complete fool when he wrote that comment.
Example: Pantani 's record on Alpe d' Huez has a VAM of 1820. Attia giving numbers of 2000 means he is completely clueless.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Pogacar can do 2000 m/h in 20/30 minutes steep climbs. Maybe next Vuelta, he will do that.

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

Correct. This guy Attia looked like a complete fool when he wrote that comment.
Example: Pantani 's record on Alpe d' Huez has a VAM of 1820. Attia giving numbers of 2000 means he is completely clueless.

As someone who read his book and assumed he knew what he was taking about, this makes me question things.

 

[Oldermanish]

He has a FTP of 7w/kg....He can just have yates pull all inn for 5min and everyone is in the red and he literally just strolling around still without beeing in the red zone even...WC properly not remotely close enough to beeing hard enough for that though.

That and the niggling problem that Yates would be obviously abandoning his country's interests for his Pro team's....which pay all of his bills. So he might be seen in the vicinity of Pogacar filling gaps but not likely sitting directly in front of him. But stranger things have happened at WC RR.

 

[Oldermanish]

Your family and friends also deserve some energy that's solely for them, not just whatever you have left when you've done your job.

As I said earlier; this may be one of the more mature aspects of Pogacar's overall abilities. He can enjoy real life and compartmentize the job when it needs to clear his head. Not every athlete works that way but it's a good way to have a long career.

 

[Peyroteo94]

As I said earlier; this may be one of the more mature aspects of Pogacar's overall abilities. He can enjoy real life and compartmentize the job when it needs to clear his head. Not every athlete works that way but it's a good way to have a long career.

He looks healthy for sure and not crazy about his weight like Froome or Contador

 

[Peyroteo94]

Geraint Thomas believes Pogacar is better than Merckx

 

[Peyroteo94]

4 days young man! I'm expecting a 50 km solo but maybe he can do a 73 km solo!

 

[Berniece]

4 days young man! I'm expecting a 50 km solo but maybe he can do a 73 km solo!

If neither MVDP or Evenepoel crashes, and Pogacar does a 50km solo and wins, I'll never diminish his performances anymore.

 

[ppanther92]

You don't have to like Peter Attia, I barely know him tbh, but still really enjoyed the interview. Because it shows how much thought gets into cycling (like the grams of carbohydrate needed in what interval and at what mix - fructose vs. glucose), the absolute insane level those guys are on ("I like riding in Zone 2 and go 320W-340W for 5-6 hours") and actually Pogacar's weight (66kg at his first TdF win, 65kg this year, max. 69kg in off-season - all in all actually a bit heavier than the forum was thinking). Those are nice first hand insights.

Also for that that VO2max was such a highly regarded metric for quite a while, I know already heard a few elite athletes that they actually don't care to test it. Pogacar simply said "Haven't tested for years, guess its high".

 

[ppanther92]

The Remco and Roglic threads went bananas years ago. The Pog thread used to be fairly normal a while back before it got goated. I think it's time for the Vingo thread to go cuckoo.

Indeed, Pogacar thread was super quite and he was already the best cyclist for quite some time. I guess a certain user was the catalyst. Where is mou Vingegaard edition?

 

[Salvarani]

Geraint Thomas believes Pogacar is better than Merckx

Geraint has actually raced against both as well.

Pog the GOAT

 

[stekelegel]

Funny interview with his teammate Wellens today:
1. will you chase after Pog on the worlds? Answer: I might, but that would be bad tactics because I will never catch him. Only Remco can.
2. Do you train together in Monaco: Answer: seldom, because it's just to hard: only on flats I can (barely) keep up, but way to fast once the road goes up.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Funny interview with his teammate Wellens today:
1. will you chase after Pog on the worlds? Answer: I might, but that would be bad tactics because I will never catch him. Only Remco can.
2. Do you train together in Monaco: Answer: seldom, because it's just to hard: only on flats I can (barely) keep up, but way to fast once the road goes up.

Novak says the same. He doesn't like to train with Pogacar because he destroys him.

 

[Peyroteo94]

If neither MVDP or Evenepoel crashes, and Pogacar does a 50km solo and wins, I'll never diminish his performances anymore.

Eheheh, I will wait to see.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Mohoric is out of WC. A pity!

 

[johnymax]

Funny interview with his teammate Wellens today:
1. will you chase after Pog on the worlds? Answer: I might, but that would be bad tactics because I will never catch him. Only Remco can.
2. Do you train together in Monaco: Answer: seldom, because it's just to hard: only on flats I can (barely) keep up, but way to fast once the road goes up.

BREAKING NEWS: Pogačar is a bad teammate. Nobody wants to hang out with him...

 

[James M]

4 days untill a epic race. Two best riders in the world going at it at the WC even - Pogi ofc and Evenepoel. Doesnt hurt either that Mvdp either which on his day can do remarkable things.

4 days to we finally get to see the best of the best battle it out again and not this amateur stuff

 

[mlescanojr]

Mohoric is out of WC. A pity!

Sad, sad news.

 

[Salvarani]

Mohoric is out of WC. A pity!

If I speak!!!

 

[Wyndbrook]

Geraint has actually raced against both as well.

Pog the GOAT

Almost, Kelly I think was the last top rider to retire to who raced with Eddy. (and won the race).

 

[Salvarani]

Almost, Kelly I think was the last top rider to retire to who raced with Eddy. (and won the race).

Damn, ok. Could have sworn Geraint was there on a few occasions. Must have mistaken.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Damn, ok. Could have sworn Geraint was there on a few occasions. Must have mistaken.

Geraint has raced Merckx 3 times, beating him twice overall, one of those times racing the TdF together.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Geraint has raced Merckx 3 times, beating him twice overall, one of those times racing the TdF together.

But in that Tour Merckx was still the stronger rider despite his advanced age.