Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Andy schleck]

So, if pogacar did 6.3 w/kg during 18 min climb on volta a andalucia at 70% of his best shape, it means that if at 100% he can do 10.71 w/kg during 18 min?

 

[Extinction]

So, if pogacar did 6.3 w/kg during 18 min climb on volta a andalucia at 70% of his best shape, it means that if at 100% he can do 10.71 w/kg during 18 min?

No, because he's not at 70%.

 

[Andy schleck]

No, because he's not at 70%.

I know that. Ridiculous statement by gianneti.

 

[Extinction]

I know that. Ridiculous statemente by gianneti.

Giannetti is as slick (look it up in the Urban Dictionary) as they get, even better than Bruyneel.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

So, if pogacar did 6.3 w/kg during 18 min climb on volta a andalucia at 70% of his best shape, it means that if at 100% he can do 10.71 w/kg during 18 min?

Those percentages are just numbers taken from a**. By saying 70% Giantetti means that there's still a considerable room for improvement but speaking in pure watts language he's probably at 95% at least.

 

[tobydawq]

Those percentages are just numbers taken from a**. By saying 70% Giantetti means that there's still a considerable room for improvement but speaking in pure watts language he's probably at 95% at least.

I think the 70% refers to speed. So if he can ride 56 km/h on flat roads now, he will be able to ride 80 km/h when he hits his peak.

 

[bNator]

I see you guys interpret 70% a share that begins at zero. Well that really would be ridiculous. Surely 70% tells us where he is on the scale beginning at his winter off-form level and ending at his peak TDF form. So if his lowest w/kg is 5.5 and highest is 6.5, then 70% would be 6.2. Which is where he is at

It’s still ridiculous to talk about percents but much less ridiculous if you talk in relative terms.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

10% luck
20% skill
15% concentrated power of will
5% pleasure
50% percent pain
And 100% reason to remember the name

So Pogi will hit 200% during the Tour.

 

[Lequack]

Geraint Thomas

https://twitter.com/x/status/1627354128740454400

View: https://twitter.com/TamauPogi/status/1627354128740454400

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Geraint Thomas

https://twitter.com/x/status/1627354128740454400

View: https://twitter.com/TamauPogi/status/1627354128740454400

Help, G is turning into Quinn Simmons!!

 

[tobydawq]

I see you guys interpret 70% a share that begins at zero. Well that really would be ridiculous. Surely 70% tells us where he is on the scale beginning at his winter off-form level and ending at his peak TDF form. So if his lowest w/kg is 5.5 and highest is 6.5, then 70% would be 6.2. Which is where he is at

It’s still ridiculous to talk about percents but much less ridiculous if you talk in relative terms.

That's definitely a good point and probably what they mean but it's still not quite that clever so I think it's fair of us to mock them.

 

[tobydawq]

Geraint Thomas

https://twitter.com/x/status/1627354128740454400

View: https://twitter.com/TamauPogi/status/1627354128740454400

Ha, I also thought of Yoda when I read the tweet a couple of days ago

 

[senna6541]

Smart move by Pogi to avoid MVDP at SB. Pogi has 10 times the class of a rider like VGG - he'll pummel him at Paris-Nice and send a message about the TDF. MVDP looked extremely strong at Hooogerheide, and if things have gone smoothly over the last few weeks he will be in full beast mode at SB - knife to a gunfight and Pogi finds himself in the pain closet.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Smart move by Pogi to avoid MVDP at SB. Pogi has 10 times the class of a rider like VGG - he'll pummel him at Paris-Nice and send a message about the TDF. MVDP looked extremely strong at Hooogerheide, and if things have gone smoothly over the last few weeks he will be in full beast mode at SB - knife to a gunfight and Pogi finds himself in the pain closet.

Sending a massage to Vingo in March doesn't matter as the Skeleton will be in ET form come the TdF. As for MVP, yeah, finishes against him aren't Pogi's strongest site. Apparently till this day he shouts "f**k you" every time he sees MVP or Van Baarle

 

[SafeBet]

Smart move by Pogi to avoid MVDP at SB. Pogi has 10 times the class of a rider like VGG

So he has 1000% the class of VGG. Currently should be at 700% though.

 

[tobydawq]

So he has 1000% the class of VGG. Currently should be at 700% though.

Who is VGG?

jonas VinGeGaard?

 

[Netserk]

Who is VGG?

jonas VinGeGaard?

People also ask

What is a VGG?

What is VGG? VGG stands for Visual Geometry Group; it is a standard deep Convolutional Neural Network (CNN) architecture with multiple layers. The “deep” refers to the number of layers with VGG-16 or VGG-19 consisting of 16 and 19 convolutional layers.

You know, @tobydawq, you are allowed to google such simple terms yourself instead of burdening others.

 

[tobydawq]

People also ask

What is a VGG?

What is VGG? VGG stands for Visual Geometry Group; it is a standard deep Convolutional Neural Network (CNN) architecture with multiple layers. The “deep” refers to the number of layers with VGG-16 or VGG-19 consisting of 16 and 19 convolutional layers.

You know, @tobydawq, you are allowed to google such simple terms yourself instead of burdening others.

I obviously knew that but it didn't make sense in this context!!

 

[Colonel]

Smart move by Pogi to avoid MVDP at SB. Pogi has 10 times the class of a rider like VGG - he'll pummel him at Paris-Nice and send a message about the TDF. MVDP looked extremely strong at Hooogerheide, and if things have gone smoothly over the last few weeks he will be in full beast mode at SB - knife to a gunfight and Pogi finds himself in the pain closet.

Is this the same message he sent him in T-A last year??

 

[CyclistAbi]

Can we now please talk about Jonas in this thread and about Pogi in Jonas thread?

P.S. To bliss them off.

 

[Salvarani]

Didnt know where to post it, but in the junior race today in K-B-K three riders from Slovenia finished in the top 20. Žak Eržen finished 2nd.

With Rog, Pog and Mohoric... cycling has become very popular in Slovenia and the future could be bright as well with more riders potentially making it to the pro peloton.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Some interesting trivia:

TdF odds:

https://www.oddschecker.com/cycling/tour-de-france/winner

Flandres odds:

https://www.oddschecker.com/cycling/tour-of-flanders/winner

According to the odds Pog is #1 favourite (or co-favourite) at both TdF and Flandres. We may not see anything like this in our lifetimes again (at least not with another rider).

 

[johnymax]

Some interesting trivia:

TdF odds:

https://www.oddschecker.com/cycling/tour-de-france/winner

Flandres odds:

https://www.oddschecker.com/cycling/tour-of-flanders/winner

According to the odds Pog is #1 favourite (or co-favourite) at both TdF and Flandres. We may not see anything like this in our lifetimes again (at least not with another rider).

Bet the house on Roglic TDF winner and win twelve houses...thank me later

 

[Nick2413]

Some interesting trivia:

TdF odds:

https://www.oddschecker.com/cycling/tour-de-france/winner

Flandres odds:

https://www.oddschecker.com/cycling/tour-of-flanders/winner

According to the odds Pog is #1 favourite (or co-favourite) at both TdF and Flandres. We may not see anything like this in our lifetimes again (at least not with another rider).

Bit surprising, is it just the consistency factor for TdF or is he just a more popular bet than Vingegaard? And still not convinced he should be favorite over MVdP or Wout in Flanders, especially if they both race it.

 

[Red Rick]

Bit surprising, is it just the consistency factor for TdF or is he just a more popular bet than Vingegaard? And still not convinced he should be favorite over MVdP or Wout in Flanders, especially if they both race it.

It's less about who is better and more about what the popular narratives are for Pogacar in these races. For RVV, this narrative is that he was stronger than MvdP. WvA not being there and MvdP having a questionable buildup are easier to ignore. For the Tour that narrative is super clearly that he got *** by tactics on Granon and that's the sole reason he lost.

If you ask me, I think the idea that he's the considerable favorite for RVV over Van Aert and MvdP is rather absurd. I also think Vingegaard is the Tour favorite, but I think the assumption that they're 50/50 is more plausible.