Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[joseph89]

I gave you the current pogacar's FTP-431W, current weight 65.5 kg, calculate w/kg yourself 😉, I gave you what "Inigo san Millan famous "zone 2" means, which is 5.0-5.5 w/kg, now I'm giving you info that Pogačar trains 3 times a week on a much improved Colnago T1 bike and I can tell you that he improved on the UAE test track in Valencia at 30 km compared to last year by 45 seconds (Remco, fisherman watch out), in short Pogačar 2024 is fear and trembling for everyone, it is still questionable how he will solve the problem with the heat on the Tour, that is still being worked on, the new coach Sola and the best expert in that field (his name is kept secret) will be at the altitude training after the Giro and will try to implement new techniques in training for the Tour, stay well everyone, pozz

The more pressing issue UAE should be trying to solve is finding DS's with an ounce of racecraft and tactics knowledge.

 

[Netserk]

Everyone going to strade thinking they have a chance is absolute giggles. Is pog not doing Tirreno?

No, Catalunya is the only stage race before the Giro.

 

[Froome]

I gave you the current pogacar's FTP-431W, current weight 65.5 kg, calculate w/kg yourself 😉, I gave you what "Inigo san Millan famous "zone 2" means, which is 5.0-5.5 w/kg, now I'm giving you info that Pogačar trains 3 times a week on a much improved Colnago T1 bike and I can tell you that he improved on the UAE test track in Valencia at 30 km compared to last year by 45 seconds (Remco, fisherman watch out), in short Pogačar 2024 is fear and trembling for everyone, it is still questionable how he will solve the problem with the heat on the Tour, that is still being worked on, the new coach Sola and the best expert in that field (his name is kept secret) will be at the altitude training after the Giro and will try to implement new techniques in training for the Tour, stay well everyone, pozz

Ok Mourinho, i think vingegaard should not even go to the Tour, he will not have a chance.

 

[Netserk]

Ok Mourinho, i think vingegaard should not even go to the Tour, he will not have a chance.

If Pogi thought he was good enough to win the Tour, he wouldn't ride the Giro. It's not like the latter better fits his calendar, rather the opposite, so it's quite telling.

 

[AmRacer]

If Pogi thought he was good enough to win the Tour, he wouldn't ride the Giro. It's not like the latter better fits his calendar, rather the opposite, so it's quite telling.

Pogi wants to win everything. He won the tour two years in a row. Of course he tried a third time but he lost to Vinge. So he wanted revenge, that was last year, but lost again.
So now it's time to win the Giro. Last year he won a few one day races, so don't have to do them this year.

 

[tobydawq]

If Pogi thought he was good enough to win the Tour, he wouldn't ride the Giro. It's not like the latter better fits his calendar, rather the opposite, so it's quite telling.

Sure

 

[Froome]

If Pogi thought he was good enough to win the Tour, he wouldn't ride the Giro. It's not like the latter better fits his calendar, rather the opposite, so it's quite telling.

The same users who think the Giro will benefit him as a preparation for the Tour, will be the same users who will use that as an "excuse" if he fades again in the Tour.

 

[Netserk]

Sure

Tell me how I'm wrong.

Had Pogi gone to the Giro as the defending Tour champion, I could easily see that result from an appetite for the Corsa Rosa, but after going home hungry twice from the Tour, it's clear that he needs a GT win on his plate (even if the lesser one will have to do).

Pogi wants to win everything. He won the tour two years in a row. Of course he tried a third time but he lost to Vinge. So he wanted revenge, that was last year, but lost again.
So now it's time to win the Giro. Last year he won a few one day races, so don't have to do them this year.

This tracks with him not thinking that he is likely to beat Vingegaard.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

I don‘t think Pogačar will beat Vingegaard at the Tour this year with a Giro in the legs but I think it is definitely possible that he wins the Double if Vingegaard crashes out.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Due to proximity we Slovenians likely value Giro a bit higher then an average cycling fan. So i believe Pogi just honestly wants to add Giro to his palmares. As for the Tour, you win some you lose some. It's not like Pogi or Jonas or ... can change that.

But then there is the worlds, considering the route Pogi for sure has that set as a main goal too. So for starters lets do Giro first and if Pogi wins overall then he already has a successful GC season in his bag. The rest is bonus.

 

[Netserk]

But then there is the worlds, considering the route Pogi for sure has that set as a main goal too. So for starters lets do Giro first and if Pogi wins overall then he already has a successful GC season in his bag. The rest is bonus.

I don't think doing both the Giro in May and the Tour in July is the optimal path towards the Worlds in September. Rather the opposite: it's the worst prep he can have. So it's not a consideration that should favour Giro participation.

 

[scribers]

The same users who think the Giro will benefit him as a preparation for the Tour, will be the same users who will use that as an "excuse" if he fades again in the Tour.

If he wins the double, all of the doubters up to that point will be no where to be found. This is how it goes online. We don’t have to do the work. We just think we know what it takes

 

[CyclistAbi]

I don't think doing both the Giro in May and the Tour in July is the optimal path towards the Worlds in September. Rather the opposite: it's the worst prep he can have. So it's not a consideration that should favour Giro participation.

Probably. So i guess it could happen for Pogi to skip the Tour this year, although i doubt it.

 

[Netserk]

If he wins the double, all of the doubters up to that point will be no where to be found. This is how it goes online. We don’t have to do the work. We just think we know what it takes

Few if no regulars here disappear after a wrong prediction. I for one certainly expect to still be around by time of the Vuelta.

So you'll know where to find this doubter.

 

[AmRacer]

If Poggi wins MSR, I think he would give PR a try.

 

[Elos Anjos]

If wrong predictions resulted in a sense of shame or self-imposed abandonment, the forum would be down to ten users.

 

[Netserk]

And wouldn't that be a shame!

 

[Sciatic]

If he wins the double, all of the doubters up to that point will be no where to be found. This is how it goes online. We don’t have to do the work. We just think we know what it takes

Ah, but we are so much more than “online”: we are “en route” together with splits in the group over tough terrain but eventually will return to groupo compacto

 

[Red Rick]

I have a conspiracy theory that after 4 years of only riding the Tour Pogacar just really wants to ride the Giro

 

[ice&fire]

I have a conspiracy theory that after 4 years of only riding the Tour Pogacar just really wants to ride the Giro

He's following Contador's footsteps

 

[tobydawq]

I have a conspiracy theory that after 4 years of only riding the Tour Pogacar just really wants to ride the Giro

I share that theory. What a cult we are.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Clearly it's so that this new mysterious heat expert can work his magic and get Pogačar fine tuned in time for the Tour.

 

[Netserk]

I have a conspiracy theory that after 4 years of only riding the Tour Pogacar just really wants to ride the Giro

Okay. How is that a conspiracy?

I too believe that he really wants to ride the Giro, even if I don't think that's because of a conspiracy. I also don't see any contradiction between that and my point that his decision indicates that he doesn't believe that he is likely to beat Vingegaard in the Tour.

 

[ManicJack]

Clearly it's so that this new mysterious heat expert can work his magic and get Pogačar fine tuned in time for the Tour.

Is he the same guy that created Team Sky's special black fabric?

 

[scribers]

Few if no regulars here disappear after a wrong prediction. I for one certainly expect to still be around by time of the Vuelta.

So you'll know where to find this doubter.

I keep a careful spreadsheet. I will be the PCS of eaten crow!