Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Berniece]

No one talked about this but Pogacar climbed the 8 km stretch of Galibier in 20:48. This give us a VAM of 1676,28 m/h. If we apply the formula to w/kg (this is a big if I believe), in this stretch of 6.75%, he did 6.27 w/kg (of course draft played a huge role too but head wind was important to slow down the gc group) in 20:48 minutes! This looks godly strong specially at 2351 m (mean). At sea level, Pogacar should do something like 7 w/kg for almost 21 minutes!!! This is Contador on Verbier in a tailwind! I got stunned after seeing this number.

Must be a big difference with Vingegaard who was 7s slower

 

[Peyroteo94]

Must be a big difference with Vingegaard who was 7s slower

Sorry but I didn't get it.

 

[James M]

Must be a big difference with Vingegaard who was 7s slower

difference is vingegaard completely blew up trying to follow him just 600m. Just like everyone else has this entire year who have tried.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Dude, it's 6.3 for 20 minutes. Big deal. They went over 7 in Switserland.

But at 2351m. If you put at sea level is 6.27÷0.9.
Switserland was almost a TTT from UAE.

 

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tbh he could have gone around the other side and by squeezing right he caused a crash.

 

[Froome]

No one talked about this but Pogacar climbed the 8 km stretch of Galibier in 20:48. This give us a VAM of 1676,28 m/h. If we apply the formula to w/kg (this is a big if I believe), in this stretch of 6.75%, he did 6.27 w/kg (of course draft played a huge role too but head wind was important to slow down the gc group) in 20:48 minutes! This looks godly strong specially at 2351 m (mean). At sea level, Pogacar should do something like 7 w/kg for almost 21 minutes!!! This is Contador on Verbier in a tailwind! I got stunned after seeing this number.

The statement smell a lot like a Naichaca thing.
I am impressed with the fact he didn't overvalued that much this time.

Contador never did 7 w/kg on Verbier.
The calculation they do to sea level doesn't make sense.

 

[tobydawq]

But at 2351m. If you put at sea level is 6.27÷0.9.
Switserland was almost a TTT from UAE.

Rick has decided that altitude doesn't impact anything.

That said, considering the benefit of riding in the wheels in the headwind, I wouldn't read much into any estimates from yesterday.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

The statement smell a lot like a Naichaca thing.
I am impressed with the fact he didn't overvalued that much this time.

Contador never did 7 w/kg on Verbier.
The calculation they do to sea level doesn't make sense.

Almost 6.3 w/kg for 21 minutes at 2350 m is impressive but reducing it to sea level is a hardcore job. I think some time ago someone quoted an interesting scientific article regarding this but those twitter estimations are more like mathematical fun - adjustment by almost 2.5 km is a lot and can be quite error-prone (and obviously it varies individually due to oxygen partial pressure being only one factor in the chain called organic engine).

 

[Froome]

Almost 6.3 w/kg for 21 minutes at 2350 m is impressive but reducing it to sea level is a hardcore job. I think some time ago someone quoted an interesting scientific article regarding this but those twitter estimations are more like mathematical fun - adjustment by almost 2.5 km is a lot and can be quite error-prone (and obviously it varies individually due to oxygen partial pressure being only one factor in the chain called organic engine).

It was a really good perfomance.

 

[snipeheem]

The statement smell a lot like a Naichaca thing.
I am impressed with the fact he didn't overvalued that much this time.

Contador never did 7 w/kg on Verbier.
The calculation they do to sea level doesn't make sense.

According to Ammatti, Contador did 6,72w/kg for 20:41

 

[James M]

Whats up with Remco's and his love for Pogacar? just checked his IG now boy has found himself a new favourite, he has ran to Pogacar everytime with everything first days seemingly looking for a best friend. I think somone is in love with Pogacar. Just kidding btw the respect is lovely to see.

 

[James M]

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Hillarious. Understandable why Cav would ask him that though.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Whats up with Remco's and his love for Pogacar? just checked his IG now boy has found himself a new favourite, he has ran to Pogacar everytime with everyone looking for a best friend. I think somone is in love with Pogacar. Just kidding btw the respect is lovely to see.

Trying to butter Pogacar up like Pog did to Roglic in 2020.

 

[James M]

Trying to butter Pogacar up like Pog did to Roglic in 2020.

Well im not gonne lie it sure has feelt as Evenpoel has buttered up Pogacar from start (I would too dont get me wrong) to now from interviews weve seen and that bit on twitter after the stages about the wheelsucking he ran to him etc..But its wholesome to see the bromance nothing but respect.

 

[noob]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1808547022405800128

View: https://twitter.com/GCKUSSfan/status/1808547022405800128


Maybe posted before but here we go

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Whats up with Remco's and his love for Pogacar? just checked his IG now boy has found himself a new favourite, he has ran to Pogacar everytime with everything first days seemingly looking for a best friend. I think somone is in love with Pogacar. Just kidding btw the respect is lovely to see.

Plotting dethronization of Vingo!

 

[noob]

Whats up with Remco's and his love for Pogacar? just checked his IG now boy has found himself a new favourite, he has ran to Pogacar everytime with everything first days seemingly looking for a best friend. I think somone is in love with Pogacar. Just kidding btw the respect is lovely to see.

Link?

 

[scribers]

Plotting dethronization of Vingo!

Lest we forget Vingo chasing down remco at every opportunity in the vuelta.

 

[Cookster15]

Ayuso to do a Cunego confirmed?

best Tour ever!

If Pog wins it will be the best tour ever. If Vingo still somehow wins after all his injuries and lost training time ….

 

[snipeheem]

If Pog wins it will be the best tour ever. If Vingo still somehow wins after all his injuries and lost training time ….

Miracle!

 

[jmdirt]

He almost crashed... Jesus Christ!

That was soooo close! I didn't see JC though.

 

[pihi42]

Do you think Pogi has stage 7 ITT win in him?
Or will he just settle for ~20s loss @ Remco and ~20s win @ Vingo?

 

[Cookster15]

Link?

'Pogačar will be unreachable' - Remco Evenepoel's relaxed and realistic Tour de France approach

While his preparation for the event hasn't been smooth, Evenepoel appears calm and collected a few days before the Grand Départ in Florence

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[Red Lobster]

Do you think Pogi has stage 7 ITT win in him?
Or will he just settle for ~20s loss @ Remco and ~20s win @ Vingo?

The latter, although I suspect the gaps both ways will be larger.

 

[James M]

Link?

His instagram story etc.