Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[RobertCrawley]

It's an interesting dynamics and so far nobody really cracked seriously yet. So i feel that it's too soon, for such targeted predictions. Too many of them still in the game. We'll see.

These are not predictions as they are desperate hopes.

 

[CyclistAbi]

These are not predictions as they are desperate hopes.

Too soon for desperation. Unless you meant @Peyroteo94 being a bit impatient, due to Pogi not leading by 10 minutes already?

 

[RobertCrawley]

Too soon for desperation. Unless you meant @Peyroteo94 being a bit impatient, due to Pogi not leading by 10 minutes already?

We see many examples of people predicting results that do not appear reasonable, like Tadej winning a sprint stage when we know he and the other GC boys will back it down at the 3k or 4k mark.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Too soon for desperation. Unless you meant @Peyroteo94 being a bit impatient, due to Pogi not leading by 10 minutes already?

I wasn't expecting a 10 minutes gap. I wanted a better route to create gaps in the first 13 stages.

 

[LesDiablesRouges]

After watching the stage 11 profile more I expect some form of attacks aswell from Pogacar. Also the way Remco went nuclear on that one hill on gravel stage think he will aswell try something on the sharp hills. He seems very strong not sure if its suits him? but time will tell. If Vingegaard went on the attack would be the most epic scenario and dropped everyone on Pertus. After the rest day on tomorrow stage all I want for Christmas is nice racing on stage 11 and not a boring stage. Its not that hard but maybe the easy stages up until stage 14 is enough reason to at least try something.

Stage 11 is quite similar to San Sebastian so I expect Remco to attack if he has the legs. Of course San Sebastian is a one day race, so I think a 50km solo is out of the question, but with Remco you never really know. It might be the only way for Remco to make up time by going from an insane distance.

 

[Oldermanish]

Stage 11 is quite similar to San Sebastian so I expect Remco to attack if he has the legs. Of course San Sebastian is a one day race, so I think a 50km solo is out of the question, but with Remco you never really know. It might be the only way for Remco to make up time by going from an insane distance.

He might do a 50km solo attempt to win another stage and further make his first Tour and this season a great success.
He'd also find out that for 50km several GC contenders were content to allow him to win by 10 seconds on the line. It's not an omnium; it's a stage race.

 

[pelotonIQ]

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his competitors can choose only one but Rogla have ALL THREE SKILLS

 

[Medvind]

UAE doms are damn strong, so it might be hard for Remco to slip away.

I see a monster pull from Yates, dropping almost everyone, and then a Pog attack. Only Vinge will be able to respond, but If he can stay on or not will be the question.

Jumbo LAB know that this stage suits Pog (and Remco) so I wonder what their tactics will be. Try to get Benoot or van Aert in the break? Doubt UAE will allow that.

 

[Lequack]

I want to see the teams used as more than just a train. I want them to try something with Almeida or Ayuso instead. Because Vingo will just stay with Pog and that's it.

 

[Medvind]

I want to see the teams used as more than just a train. I want them to try something with Almeida or Ayuso instead. Because Vingo will just stay with Pog and that's it.

I might happen, I wouldn't rule it out. Will other teams look to Jumbo LAB to try to bring back Almedia or Ayuso? Or will Ineos, Bora and Soudal Quick-Step help. Actually think that Ineos can be crucial for Vinge in this tour, very strong team that strongly believe that Crod can podium this tour, and they usually want to be active.

 

[CyclistAbi]

I wasn't expecting a 10 minutes gap. I wanted a better route to create gaps in the first 13 stages.

The route in first week certainly allowed for bigger gaps, competition didn't.

 

[Miha81]

I want to see the teams used as more than just a train. I want them to try something with Almeida or Ayuso instead. Because Vingo will just stay with Pog and that's it.

Sometimes they do have some lack of creativity. They are by far the strongest mountain team in this TDF but in the end Vingo has to only cover Pog as you stated. It is also my opinion that they will have to find other tactical solutions if they want to have bigger gains.

 

[CyclistAbi]

I want to see the teams used as more than just a train. I want them to try something with Almeida or Ayuso instead. Because Vingo will just stay with Pog and that's it.

Realistically, Visma likely wouldn't allow it. So if they won't be able to do that, then lets see if they will instead form a train, and if yes, on how much effort they will invest in it. As if they are still aiming for top 3 spots in GC, then it won't look or work good.

 

[Peter von]

I want to see the teams used as more than just a train. I want them to try something with Almeida or Ayuso instead. Because Vingo will just stay with Pog and that's it.

Yeah, It is quite the spectacle when stuff like that happens. But IMO Pogi has been so strong so far that UAEs best bet of winning the overall is him being the strongest rider.

 

[James M]

I might happen, I wouldn't rule it out. Will other teams look to Jumbo LAB to try to bring back Almedia or Ayuso? Or will Ineos, Bora and Soudal Quick-Step help. Actually think that Ineos can be crucial for Vinge in this tour, very strong team that strongly believe that Crod can podium this tour, and they usually want to be active.

Are we sure UAE will try something here, control the stage I mean its long with 120km flat? or we simply expect them to drag at the end to maybe try something there? If we even expect it at all?

 

[Netserk]

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[Peyroteo94]

Big day today. Time to stretch the legs Tadej!! You can win the Tour today, Go go!

 

[James M]

Best cyclist of all time and its not even close.

Which clearly all the cycling community has crowned him already which is not hard to get at all. And before the few ppl get upset over nothing learn the difference betwen greatest and best.

facts

 

[ppanther92]

Since I was told Zigart talk here - Pogi will furiously attack today since he rides with anger in his belly from Slovenian cycling authority's corruption messing with his Paris holiday with his girlfriend

 

[Peyroteo94]

Since I was told Zigart talk here - Pogi will furiously attack today since he rides with anger in his belly from Slovenian cycling authority's corruption messing with his Paris holiday with his girlfriend

Yeah, Pogi was angry about it. Something is going on, I don't have any doubt about it. Zigart is clearly the best slovenian rider.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Not selecting Žigart can be somewhat justified since the route doesn't suit her. The federation shouldn't have kept the decision a secret until the last minute, but I assume they were fearing the backlash.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Not selecting Žigart can be somewhat justified since the route doesn't suit her. The federation shouldn't have kept the decision a secret until the last minute, but I assume they were fearing the backlash.

No because Zigart is better than anyone in every type of terrain.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

No because Zigart is better than anyone in every type of terrain.

Bujak did finish a respectable 19th in Tokyo, to be fair, and it's not too likely that Žigart will be able to achieve a better result than that.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Bujak did finish a respectable 19th in Tokyo, to be fair, and it's not too likely that Žigart will be able to achieve a better result than that.

That was 3 years ago but of course Zigart wouldn't do better than 19th in Paris. Zigart would be their best rider for sure, results show that.

 

[James M]

The team and tacicts cant be blamed so far. This is nothing but net so far atleast really impressive controlled in a very hard stage by UAE. Comes down to Pogacar power in the end now, he cant blame anyone else.