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Peyroteo94 said:
I don't like to underestimate Vingegaard. He is the only rider to defeat the monster twice. Vingegaard will be better than ever next year, he will probably reach a better level than 2024 Pogacar (in GT's). Now let's see if this will be enough because Pogacar will improve too.
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Turning back any advance from a healthy Vingo will at least be UAE’s biggest goal of 2025. Pogi is usually slightly less interested. I’m guessing he’ll want to repeat Flanders, prevail in MSR, win the vuelta, and try to retain his WC stripes for 2026 as his biggest goals.
 
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Turning back any advance from a healthy Vingo will at least be UAE’s biggest goal of 2025. Pogi is usually slightly less interested. I’m guessing he’ll want to repeat Flanders, prevail in MSR, win the vuelta, and try to retain his WC stripes for 2026 as his biggest goals.
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Try to win 4 monuments next year.
Tour
Vuelta
WC
7 goals next season. If he wins MSR and the Tour, I will be happy.
 
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Blanco said:
Well, Pogacar clearly upped his level this year, while Vingegaard certainly couldn't be in absolute top form after that horrific accident.
Pogacar had an injury last year, so he also probably wasn't on his best level.
In 2022 however, they were both healthy.
I think 2025. will give a clearer answer, but I'm skeptical that Vinge can reach Pog's new level.
This is of course purely in terms of GT racing.
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Important indicator is overall team performance. If the team is super far ahead of everyone else as well, then it's more likely other teams will catch up at some point.
 
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Blanco said:
Well, Pogacar clearly upped his level this year, while Vingegaard certainly couldn't be in absolute top form after that horrific accident.
Pogacar had an injury last year, so he also probably wasn't on his best level.
In 2022 however, they were both healthy.
I think 2025. will give a clearer answer, but I'm skeptical that Vinge can reach Pog's new level.
This is of course purely in terms of GT racing.
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Jonas has to establish his own recovery level. Between the injuries he's sustained and the rushed re-entry into Tour training he may be more than a season from his best.
 
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Red Rick said:
Important indicator is overall team performance. If the team is super far ahead of everyone else as well, then it's more likely other teams will catch up at some point.
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I don't think UAE is that superior to other teams. They have better riders but the only rider to make a huge leap was in fact Pogacar.
Yates
Almeida
Ayuso
McNulty
Vine
Hirschi
Wellens
Do you think these guys are so much better this year compared to last year? I don't think so.
Of course UAE won a lot more this year but it is mainly because they have better riders and a very deep team so they collect a lot of small races.
 
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Peyroteo94 said:
I didn't think UAE is that superior to other teams. They have better riders but the only rider to make a huge leap was in fact Pogacar.
Yates
Almeida
Ayuso
McNulty
Vine
Hirschi
Wellens
Do you think these guys are so much better this year compared to last year? I don't think so.
Of course UAE won a lot more this year but it is mainly because they have better riders and a very deep team so they collect a lot of small races.
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Yes, they have a very talented team and the greatest rider ever in their ranks. Of course, they are many winning races.

They race aggressive and it is very entertaining. Thank god this team exists.
 
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Turning back any advance from a healthy Vingo will at least be UAE’s biggest goal of 2025. Pogi is usually slightly less interested. I’m guessing he’ll want to repeat Flanders, prevail in MSR, win the vuelta, and try to retain his WC stripes for 2026 as his biggest goals.
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Why would you assume he’s less interested? In his recent podcast, he said (paraphrasing) that Tour is the greatest race of all, whoever wins the Tour is the best and he will race the Tour until he rides his bike professionally.

Do we have any indications from Pog he’s not that much into Tour besides our own projections?
 
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bNator said:
Why would you assume he’s less interested? In his recent podcast, he said (paraphrasing) that Tour is the greatest race of all, whoever wins the Tour is the best and he will race the Tour until he rides his bike professionally.

Do we have any indications from Pog he’s not that much into Tour besides our own projections?
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Comrade @mou has said as much the tour is his employment work, but his interest is in other races.
 
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Lequack said:
"What he did was outrageous" - Alejandro Valverde calls Tadej Pogacar the best cyclist he's ever seen

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"What he did was outrageous" - Alejandro Valverde calls Tadej Pogacar the best cyclist he's ever seen

Praise has understandably been flying in from all angles toward 2024 world champion Tadej Pogacar after his incredible display in Zurich on Sunday afternoon. Legendary Spaniard Alejandro Valverde know...
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2 years ago he said Remco was clearly the best rider in the world... after that, I really don't care about what Valverde says.
 
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Peyroteo94 said:
Yes, it is stupid when you have Pogacar in the peloton. Like you can see, he changed his opinion... it was so obvious that even him couldn't maintain that stupid take. Remco is great, a generational talent but Pogacar is Pogacar, sorry. There isn't even a comparison
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You are acting as if the season Pogacar had this year was already written in the stars and everyone would know this would happen.
 
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Peyroteo94 said:
Yes, it is stupid when you have Pogacar in the peloton. Like you can see, he changed his opinion... it was so obvious that even him couldn't maintain that stupid take. Remco is great, a generational talent but Pogacar is Pogacar, sorry. There isn't even a comparison
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It's called the availability bias. Events in recent memory are considered more important. He was not the only one saying this about Remco btw. De Gendt for example was also clear about this. They experienced it of course first hand ... in their legs actually. The same bias is currently experienced by many about Pogacar, including the great Eddy Merckx. Don't be surprised to hear something else again in a few years.
 
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