Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Peyroteo94]

He will definitely have another go at MSR. Just keep trying.

Probably Dauphine and Tour, I reckon.

Could that mean more classics again in the spring? Would be great to see him race them in the WC jersey.

WC and then Lombardia, of course. I wouldnt do Vuelta.

Tour-Vuelta and WC.
Monuments: he can try MSR, Flanders, rest a little bit before LBL.

 

[AmRacer]

No monuments (bar MSR)?

Maybe start season down under and LBL Lombardia.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Maybe start season down under and LBL Lombardia.

He can win TDU when he is 35 years old

 

[Krzysztof_O]

He will definitely have another go at MSR. Just keep trying.

Probably Dauphine and Tour, I reckon.

Could that mean more classics again in the spring? Would be great to see him race them in the WC jersey.

WC and then Lombardia, of course. I wouldnt do Vuelta.

MSR is becoming pain in the a** for Pogacar. It's hard to win but if he tries it every year he may succeed one day. He may need a lot of tries but fortunately for him MSR doesn't really collide with anything in his calendar so he'll keep trying.

 

[scribers]

He can win TDU when he is 35 years old

Plus they give out a lot of money for appearance fees. Although he will be filthy rich by then so who knows.

 

[Cookster15]

He just went empty on sugar/fuel that day. Several people have comfirmed that even Pogacar, you can rest assure thats the case.

Nah, that's not a bonk. This is a bonk ...

Armstrong Joux Plane 2000 TdF

But I do agree that more likely Pogacar exaggerated his suffering on stage 11 to lull Visma into a false sense of security. I mean when you bonk you can usually still pull out a sprint? Since when is Vingegaard ever going to beat Pogacar in a sprint - like that day? But Visma obviously took the bait but were then relieved of their chutzpah on stage 15.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Nah, that's not a bonk. This is a bonk ...

Armstrong Joux Plane 2000 TdF

But I do agree that more likely Pogacar exaggerated his suffering on stage 11 to lull Visma into a false sense of security. I mean when you bonk you can usually still pull out a sprint? Since when is Vingegaard ever going to beat Pogacar in a sprint - like that day? But Visma obviously took the bait but were then relieved of their chutzpah on stage 15.

You need sugars for sprinting and bonking is running out of them.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Nah, that's not a bonk. This is a bonk ...

Armstrong Joux Plane 2000 TdF

But I do agree that more likely Pogacar exaggerated his suffering on stage 11 to lull Visma into a false sense of security. I mean when you bonk you can usually still pull out a sprint? Since when is Vingegaard ever going to beat Pogacar in a sprint - like that day? But Visma obviously took the bait but were then relieved of their chutzpah on stage 15.

He reinforced his dominance in Adet before Plateau de Beille

 

[AmRacer]

Nah, that's not a bonk. This is a bonk ...

Armstrong Joux Plane 2000 TdF

But I do agree that more likely Pogacar exaggerated his suffering on stage 11 to lull Visma into a false sense of security. I mean when you bonk you can usually still pull out a sprint? Since when is Vingegaard ever going to beat Pogacar in a sprint - like that day? But Visma obviously took the bait but were then relieved of their chutzpah on stage 15.

Simon Yates Bonked in the Giro
Remco Bonked in the Tour

 

[Peyroteo94]

I am seeing Hirschi, Ayuso and Ulissi will race Tre Valli Varesine. I just hope these guys won't be in Lombardia. Pogacar needs a fully commited team until his attack in Sormano.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I am seeing Hirschi, Ayuso and Ulissi will race Tre Valli Varesine. I just hope these guys won't be in Lombardia. Pogacar needs a fully commited team until his attack in Sormano.

Pogacar doesn't need Tre Valli TBH. Just let other guys ride for victory there and come back on Saturday.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Pogacar doesn't need Tre Valli TBH. Just let other guys ride for victory there and come back on Saturday.

But if they are racing it, that means they are an option for Lombardia.
I hope Pogacar has this team around him:
Wellens
Majka
Yates
Sivakov
Vine (unfortunately)
Bax

 

[Cookster15]

You need sugars for sprinting and bonking is running out of them.

Bonking is when you've hit the wall by depleting your body's glycogen stored in the muscles and liver. Sprinting uses a different energy system - the Phosphagen System which doesn't metabolise glycogen.

 

[Salvarani]

He will land on 58 race days this season. Thats incredible management to have him sharp and focused for each target, while not overloading with the amount of race days.

 

[vwpe]

This kid just doesn't like riding with other people!
Congrats TP!

This is the best level I think of any cyclist ever.

What are people expecting from Lombardia when weve seen 100km attacks in the WC nonetheless.

 

[Rule #9 apostle]

It really is.

Word on the streeths after and during the Tour was he never went all in once during the Tour, that was what I was told by several SD's. Thats hard to believe but was the rumours at least.

This cannot be true? In the massiv central he was definitely on the limit. And up the pla adet and plateau de beille he definitely went full throtle to gain max time right? Also had clearly a heavier cadence last k to isola. Pretty sure these were all max efforts. Why would they not be? But of course, that doesnt mean he was ever in any trouble right

 

[Scarponi]

Still not convinced Pogacar didn’t fake it to give Vingegaard and Visma hope before destroying them.

I still think it was Jonas best day that race, mixed with a slight bonk or mental manoeuvre etc.

Not sure I ever saw confirmation from pogi about the bonk, at least publicly. Gracious champions don't offer excuses beyond a congratulations that someone else was stronger that day. Others commentary from race level including my own eyes is confirmation he bonked that day. He couldn't get a gel when he wanted it and he paid for change in tactics from the team that day. It made the race a little more compelling that day.

i still think it was Jonas best day on top of all of this

 

[scribers]

What are people expecting from Lombardia when weve seen 100km attacks in the WC nonetheless.

He is dominant in the areas that preparation of other riders and tactics cannot effectively overcome him in competition. The longer range attacks also remove chance from possibilities of the opposition.

 

[Peyroteo94]

What are people expecting from Lombardia when weve seen 100km attacks in the WC nonetheless.

I expect a 50 km solo. I think we will be surprised if he doesn't drop everyone in Sormano

 

[pihi42]

The real question is,
can he win all 5 monuments and all three Grand Tours
before this forum gets to 1000 pages?

 

[2WpK]

Bonking is when you've hit the wall by depleting your body's glycogen stored in the muscles and liver. Sprinting uses a different energy system - the Phosphagen System which doesn't metabolise glycogen.

The phosphagen system contributes to a sprint effort but you still need mitochondrial activity and glycolysis. You cannot effectively sprint when under fueled (which was the only reason he lost to Vingo in a sprint).

 

[Mina.S]

Urska posted a video of her training with Mavi Garcia, Tadej and Ayuso. Guess they don’t hate each other as Mou would like you to think…

 

[Monsi]

I still think it was Jonas best day that race, mixed with a slight bonk or mental manoeuvre etc.

i still think it was Jonas best day on top of all of this

I think Jonas’ best day at the TDF was the Plateau de Beille stage. Pogacar just happened to do the greatest climbing performance at the same time.

 

[Oldermanish]

The phosphagen system contributes to a sprint effort but you still need mitochondrial activity and glycolysis. You cannot effectively sprint when under fueled (which was the only reason he lost to Vingo in a sprint).

If you're underfueled you're usually not in the area code for a sprint.

 

[Peyroteo94]

The real question is,
can he win all 5 monuments and all three Grand Tours
before this forum gets to 1000 pages?

He would have to be in 2025 eheheheh. So I don't believe it