Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Krzysztof_O]

So why it's important being close to Monaco? It's not like Tignes is in Australia.

Maybe he simply likes this place. Or maybe Visma, Bora and Soudal reserved all accomodations in Tignes so Pogacar can't stay there.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Even Jonas knows he is screwed

"I hope he doesn’t get any better" - Jonas Vingegaard says 'time will tell' if Tadej Pogacar is peaking too soon for 2025 Tour de France

For many riders, their calendars are designed around peaking at one race in particular every season. For others, they target 2 or 3 peaks within a season. Tadej Pogacar however, has shown over recent...

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[Mina.S]

Urska is with Pogacar in Isola. This means one thing to me, Pogacar will race the Vuelta and wants to spend more time with Urska before the Tour-Vuelta double.

I agree. UAE realised the only thing stopping him from doing both Tour and Vuelta was time away from home so they are just bringing her to all the camps. She was also in Sierra Nevada.

Not sure what her schedule is like for the rest of the year other than Slovenian nationals.

 

[Mina.S]

Maybe he simply likes this place. Or maybe Visma, Bora and Soudal reserved all accomodations in Tignes so Pogacar can't stay there.

He seems to drive to most races that he can so he probably likes the idea he can just go home for a few days before the tour easily and not worry. He did say in an interview that he was going home for a few days before.

 

[Mina.S]

Has anyone else noticed who is in Isola? So far I've seen Pog, Sivakov, Narvaez, Soler and Urska but I don't think she will be making the final line up /s

 

[BubbaChuck]

We come a long way.still cant believe,we had troubles with kuss.this looks like ancient history,lmao.

 

[BubbaChuck]

These 2 are getting avenged in 3 weeks.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV-vi33LZ7Q

 

[Lorzenz08]

Even Jonas knows he is screwed

https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...peaking-too-soon-for-2025-tour-de-france[/URL

He ain't ready for the New gen of Poggenheimer.

In 2024 Pogi was only a few months in with Sola. Now he is finally primed to display his full power.

2025 - 2028 is peak Pogacar time.

 

[Lorzenz08]

These 2 are getting avenged in 3 weeks.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV-vi33LZ7Q

Exactly.
And 2022 Granon as well.

View: https://youtu.be/J2DUD1Hsf9g?si=sIZ12mjUkGVwUCNt

 

[yaco]

So why it's important being close to Monaco? It's not like Tignes is in Australia.

Why does it matter where he trains altitude? Reckon Pogacar and UAE know what they are doing.

 

[jmdirt]

Yup. He was very close this year. I just want a bit of rain to give him an advantage.

Over who? MvdP?

 

[Peyroteo94]

Who is gonna follow Pogacar after Almeida's leadout?

 

[Peyroteo94]

He ain't ready for the New gen of Poggenheimer.

In 2024 Pogi was only a few months in with Sola. Now he is finally primed to display his full power.

2025 - 2028 is peak Pogacar time.

Yup. I hope he wins the Vuelta and tries to win MSR and PR again next year.

 

[snipeheem]

Who is gonna follow Pogacar after Almeida's leadout?

Nobody. Almeida is so strong right now, like wtf

 

[Peyroteo94]

Nobody. Almeida is so strong right now, like wtf

Yup, this is what I was trying to say. It is very possible to see Almeida leading out Pogacar and only Vingegaard there.

 

[scribers]

Mou has been predicting podium at tour for Almeida for months now

 

[P4rthen0n]

Mou has been predicting podium at tour for Almeida for months now

The only chance of that happening is if Pogacar is able to make lots of long range attacks and doesn't require Almeida to pull the group.
And even then, Almeida would have to be stronger than everybody other than Vingegaard, which is not likely to happen (even though it might be possible).

 

[scribers]

The only chance of that happening is if Pogacar is able to make lots of long range attacks and doesn't require Almeida to pull the group.
And even then, Almeida would have to be stronger than everybody other than Vingegaard, which is not likely to happen (even though it might be possible).

It could happen if the final 3-4 selection includes a working almeida

 

[Peyroteo94]

The only chance of that happening is if Pogacar is able to make lots of long range attacks and doesn't require Almeida to pull the group.
And even then, Almeida would have to be stronger than everybody other than Vingegaard, which is not likely to happen (even though it might be possible).

No. Almeida just needs to drop Evenepoel in the mountains while working to Pogacar.

 

[P4rthen0n]

It could happen if the final 3-4 selection includes a working almeida

I don't think Almeida is stronger than Remco or Roglic head to head if all are in TDF shape.

And if Almeida has to work hard, there are a few guys that will give him a run for his money if they are in form and if they are GC focused.
Carapaz, Lipowitz, Carlos Rodriguez, Enric Mas, Simon Yates, Gaudu, Buitrago, Lenny Martinez....

A lot has to go his way... even more than last year's TDF.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I don't think Almeida is stronger than Remco or Roglic head to head if all are in TDF shape.

And if Almeida has to work hard, there are a few guys that will give him a run for his money if they are in form and if they are GC focused.
Carapaz, Lipowitz, Carlos Rodriguez, Enric Mas, Simon Yates, Gaudu, Buitrago, Lenny Martinez....

A lot has to go his way... even more than last year's TDF.

I agree with you when you talk about Remco and Roglic. All other riders you mentioned have no chance of finishing in front of Almeida (bar Lipowitz).

 

[ppanther92]

The only chance of that happening is if Pogacar is able to make lots of long range attacks and doesn't require Almeida to pull the group.
And even then, Almeida would have to be stronger than everybody other than Vingegaard, which is not likely to happen (even though it might be possible).

It happened with Yates, so why not Almeida?

 

[Bombarolo]

These 2 are getting avenged in 3 weeks.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV-vi33LZ7Q

Pogacar needed these. They made him so much stronger.
But i have to admit, i didn't think he could improve this much.

 

[HashRouge]

These 2 are getting avenged in 3 weeks.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV-vi33LZ7Q

2023 Tour Pogi is still my favourite Pogi. Col de la Loze hurt to watch, but he was so much fun in that Tour. Watching that, and then the Glasgow world champs a few weeks later, really made me a fan.

 

[Rou]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSP2P8g8U_c&t=3806s

When you have the time watch and listen to the whole podcast of Tom Danielson.
He brings several interesting topics.
Here are some of them:
15:15 - Jonas has the level and he's raising it according to what he sees from Pogacar. The problem is that Pogacar has more than what he shows.
17:00 - He talks about the TT
32:08 - Tadej holding back on Stage 7
He talks about other things as well so I suggest you listen to the whole show.