Its pretty obvious really, he doesnt have the same massive anaerobic power and fast-twitch muscle fibers, weight is important indeed, but there is so much more to it.
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It's true but even on those punchy 2-3 -minute climbs aerobic component is very important (likely around 70% or more) and Vingo has superb w/kg (way superior to all other guys except Pogi), which helps on steep sections. On top of that his anaerobic abilities seem underrated here (I don't mean pure watts but w/kg) .
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Sure, in theory he can. There's nothing to suggest anyone can 'crush' Pogačar right now.
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No, in 2023 Pogacar was injured, and in 2022 he had to fight alone against 4 Jumbo in Galibier before the Granon.
On the day of Hautacam, he had an accident on the descent and he climbed bleeding. But these are things you overlook.
I mean he kinda is? Just not compared to Pogacar, like Vingegaard would beat 9999,9% of all current or former cyclists in such terrain just not Pog.
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This is true. Pogacar is better on these climbs but Vingegaard being lighter is not the reason for Pogacar being better. Pogacar has more fast-twitch muscle fibers like you said.
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Every time Pogi does something, be it a 100k solo attack or ten pedal strokes on a steep climb, maybe just a weird look at an opponent, we analyze it to death. Is it a good sign or a bad omen? Is he hiding something, has he overexerted himself, how many hairs stood up through his helmet?
I bet we'd be all surprised, if the truth was revealed by some magic, at how both simpler and different things really are from what we're hallucinating.
It's exactly how ChatGPT produces it's famous blunders, lack of data and very high demand.
Pogi is not a machine, he doesn't spin knucklehead strategies while riding in the peloton, many things happen and nobody at UAE knows exactly how and why. Least of all himself. Sometimes he does exactly the plan, but everybody plans to win.
Sometimes he does Pogi things and retrospectively a purpose and meaning is assigned to them.
But he is a confirmation bias dream. He won again, I knew it! We fans all feel like gods and prophets.
Just remember, everything ends one day.
It goes from "Eh, why not?" to "Long time, no see, eh?".
I bet we'd be all surprised, if the truth was revealed by some magic, at how both simpler and different things really are from what we're hallucinating.
It's exactly how ChatGPT produces it's famous blunders, lack of data and very high demand.
Pogi is not a machine, he doesn't spin knucklehead strategies while riding in the peloton, many things happen and nobody at UAE knows exactly how and why. Least of all himself. Sometimes he does exactly the plan, but everybody plans to win.
Sometimes he does Pogi things and retrospectively a purpose and meaning is assigned to them.
But he is a confirmation bias dream. He won again, I knew it! We fans all feel like gods and prophets.
Just remember, everything ends one day.
It goes from "Eh, why not?" to "Long time, no see, eh?".
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The bald fraud talked about Pogacar.
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"Quando os outros ciclistas fazem 8000 rotações/minuto, ele continua a fazer 3000" - Antigo treinador de Tadej Pogacar diz que nunca viu um atleta assim
Tadej Pogacar atingiu um marco histórico com a sua 100ª vitória profissional na 4ª etapa da Volta a França 2025, mas para quem acompanhou o seu percurso desde o início, como Iñigo San Milán, este feit...
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It is the only thing keeping him relevantThe bald fraud talked about Pogacar.
"Quando os outros ciclistas fazem 8000 rotações/minuto, ele continua a fazer 3000" - Antigo treinador de Tadej Pogacar diz que nunca viu um atleta assim
Tadej Pogacar atingiu um marco histórico com a sua 100ª vitória profissional na 4ª etapa da Volta a França 2025, mas para quem acompanhou o seu percurso desde o início, como Iñigo San Milán, este feit...
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View: https://www.instagram.com/p/DL2loopoWeB/?img_index=6&igsh=MThlaW5uZWJlbmRxYw==
I wonder if this also applies to the leaders' jerseys. My guess is no and that it's only for Trek riders.
I wonder if this also applies to the leaders' jerseys. My guess is no and that it's only for Trek riders.
Yates on the same path as Kuss. Take it relatively easily now and save legs to put in a few great performances in third week.
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Yup. His "child" Ayuso can't perform when it matters so he needs to talk about Pogacar.
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I at least expect the official jerseys to take advantage of the latest tech that the official sponsor has developed so far, so pog should get this same skinsuit. Otherwise it would be totally unfair, considering they can't ride using their own materials
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Yup. They should allow teams to design their own yellow jersey for example.
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Yes, but that won't happen, the official sponsor will pay for sure to get the exposure.
what is your prediction for today? I've got Vingegaard taking 25-30 sec on pog
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Vingegaard will gain 30 seconds on Pogacar. Remco to gain 1'05" on Pogacar.
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What are we doing? Assuming the worst in case he underperformes so we don't get too upset?
Thought Pogi fans would have more trust in Pogi.
Hopefully Santini uses that for MvdP and TP's yellow and dots suits!
From the front page story:
"To put the possible gains in context, according to Cyclingnews' Labs wind-tunnel testing of skinsuits, the top-tier Passion Project RR 1.0 saved 55 seconds over 40km at 250 watts compared to entry-level kit, and 15 seconds over a lower-tier skinsuit from the same brand."
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I was shocked by his TT. I'm not doing the same mistake again.What are we doing? Assuming the worst in case he underperformes so we don't get too upset?
Thought Pogi fans would have more trust in Pogi.
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Re watched the last km of dauphine TT of all the gc contenders & it was visible to see pog not pushing all out to the line while everybody was showing faces sprinting to the line. I am leaning towards tom danielsen's conclusion of pog helding back deliberately in that TT i dont know why he did that but if its about playing games with the competition knowing what he could do on the mountains its quite scary
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Would need more than the musings of Tom Danielson to be convinced of anything like that...
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