Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Peyroteo94]

He could win 6/7 stages here again couldn’t he. Even stage 11 could suit him, it has 800m at 11% not far from the finish.

Zero chances he attacks there for the win. One day before Hautacam. He can win in a reduced sprint though.

 

[Cycling111]

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[Red Rick]

He could win 6/7 stages here again couldn’t he. Even stage 11 could suit him, it has 800m at 11% not far from the finish.

Theoretically could be more.

Practically, I suspect these hilly stages will start to go to the breakaways unless Van der Poel is really committed to helping his buddy out.

 

[Monsi]

He could win 6/7 stages here again couldn’t he. Even stage 11 could suit him, it has 800m at 11% not far from the finish.

Not with stage 12 being Hautacam already.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

He could win 6/7 stages here again couldn’t he. Even stage 11 could suit him, it has 800m at 11% not far from the finish.

At that time it will be all about saving themselves for the Pyrenees. I don't think UAE will be active even on stage 10 but maybe Visma will control breakaways. They won't work much until Hautacam IMO.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Theoretically could be more.

Practically, I suspect these hilly stages will start to go to the breakaways unless Van der Poel is really committed to helping his buddy out.

I'm sure Alpecin will work on stage 11 for MVP.

 

[Rou]

I would prefer him to recover until Superbagneres. It's 8 days, very possible without major injuries.

IMO Almeida needs to be good on Hautacam only. It's an easier stage than Superbagneres and he needs to do 7kms all out and drop.
On the Superbagneres Stage Rabobank will throw haymakers and I don't think Joao will be there.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Stages 12, 13, 14 is where Pogacar will try to finish the Tour and then play defensively in the Alps.

 

[Rou]

The other option is that he shows the symptoms of Ayusitis and starts thinking about La Vuelta but I don't want to accept that.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Considering the situation in the race, maybe Almeida won't be needed at all to set huge pace on last climbs for Pogacar. Visma is actually forced to do it in the Pyrenees already and Pog can use their train (like on PdB last year). Almeida could be needed in some tactical situations more i.e. when Pog needs to chase some dangerous guy or has a weaker day.

 

[yaf2]

I am enjoying the tactics of visma this days😊 I also want a lead out on hautacam

 

[Peyroteo94]

Considering the situation in the race, maybe Almeida won't be needed at all to set huge pace on last climbs for Pogacar. Visma is actually forced to do it in the Pyrenees already. Almeida could be needed is some tactical situations more.

He is important because Matteo will probably attack and I don't know if Pogacar will have anyone to help him.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

He is important because Matteo will probably attack and I don't know if Pogacar will have anyone to help him.

This is one of few situations when Almeida could be crucial (other is when Pog is on a worse day and needs help). I don't know how seriously Pogacar & UAE treat Jorgenson in the GC (I don't think Pogi fears him like he feared Roglic in 2022).

 

[Peyroteo94]

This is one of few situations when Almeida could be crucial (other is when Pog is on a worse day and needs help). I don't know how seriously Pogacar & UAE treat Jorgenson in the GC (I don't think Pogi fears him like he feared Roglic in 2022).

I don't think a attack from Matteo in the last climb should take any sleep to Pogacar but I can see a scenario where Kuss and Simon Yates drop every UAE rider (bar Pogacar) in the second last climb and Pogacar decides to respond to Matteo if he attacks. I fear that scenario in stage 18.

 

[scribers]

I'm sure Alpecin will work on stage 11 for MVP.

It will get to a point where MVP has to even think of why he's in the race. I suspect MTB worlds is still a concern?

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I don't think a attack from Matteo in the last climb should take any sleep to Pogacar but I can see a scenario where Kuss and Simon Yates drop every UAE rider (bar Pogacar) in the second last climb and Pogacar decides to respond to Matteo if he attacks. I fear that scenario in stage 18.

By stage 18 Pogi will be 5-10 minutes ahead of Matteo. Double attack by Visma makes more sense in the Pyrenees.

 

[scribers]

I don't think a attack from Matteo in the last climb should take any sleep to Pogacar but I can see a scenario where Kuss and Simon Yates drop every UAE rider (bar Pogacar) in the second last climb and Pogacar decides to respond to Matteo if he attacks. I fear that scenario in stage 18.

Assuming Pogi's condition holds, he just stays with the threats accordingly and depending on how far out the attacks come. So he goes with Jorgensen, which is just as much Vingo's problem as his own.

 

[Peyroteo94]

It will get to a point where MVP has to even think of why he's in the race. I suspect MTB worlds is still a concern?

He can race stage 11 and go home. Stages 11 and 21 are made for him.

 

[Peyroteo94]

By stage 18 Pogi will be 5-10 minutes ahead of Matteo. Double attack by Visma makes more sense in the Pyrenees.

But they will wait for the Alps IMHO.

 

[Poursuivant]

It will get to a point where MVP has to even think of why he's in the race. I suspect MTB worlds is still a concern?

Paris stage suits MVDP too

 

[Rou]

But they will wait for the Alps IMHO.

If they wait so long Matteo will be useless. The biggest danger is if UAE is weak on Hautacam. Then Jorgenson and Jonas can try to work over Pogacar.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

But they will wait for the Alps IMHO.

Maybe in the Alps they will be forced to do something more drastic: a long ranger by Vingegaard (with Van Aert or Jorgenson in the breakaway waiting to pull Vingo hard on flat/false flat before the last climb).

 

[rafa92]

By stage 18 Pogi will be 5-10 minutes ahead of Matteo. Double attack by Visma makes more sense in the Pyrenees.

more like 15 minutes if everything goes according to plan. Talking about a 2 leader strategy with jorgenson is nonsense. But the relevance of almeida s the fact that if he's okay pog has the guarantee of arriving at the last climb with a teammate that can help, even by just bringing water for him

 

[Peyroteo94]

If they wait so long Matteo will be useless. The biggest danger is if UAE is weak on Hautacam. Then Jorgenson and Jonas can try to work over Pogacar.

Hautacam is not a danger at all. UAE will ride hard and Pogacar will attack without looking behind. He will be 3 minutes ahead of Matteo.

 

[Rou]

Hautacam is not a danger at all. UAE will ride hard and Pogacar will attack without looking behind. He will be 3 minutes ahead of Matteo.

They will ride hard with who? We saw how Rabobank can easily suffocate them today.
If Yates and Kuss come into good shape they will shatter UAE.
I hope Almeida is healthy because Adam is looking bad.