Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[yaf2]

I continue to believe that with the aero bike he performs worst on climbs, it's not only a matter of estimates of power output being lower, even than dauphine, but of how he looks on the bike. If you look at his performances with the v series he always arrives to the last kms in total control, he never looks over his limit, he has his mouth closed, he looks comfortable on the bike. In this tour both in the tt and hautacam I did not have the same impression at all, plus his pedalling looks less smooth, especially as soon as the gradients go above 7.5-8%

Couldn't agree more but if he wants it & says its better for him we're no one to complain or suggest

 

[YavorD]

"Oh, no. Pogi is riding the aero bike today. He has given up on the Tour and he is just promoting the Y1."

 

[rafa92]

He went to the red to follow Narvaez on Hautacam, I can't imagine where was Vingegaard.

yes ok, but forget about hautacam for a moment. In the ITT he produced similar watts to combloux, but in combloux there was an hard climb before with a strong pace, and if you look at how pog arrived at the finish in combloux and the ITT, it's totally different, he seemed totally in control, comfortable, mouth shut. Let's not even talk about PdB

 

[rafa92]

Couldn't agree more but if he wants it & says its better for him we're no one to complain or suggest

clearly not, but still numbers do not seem to suggest he's right up to now. Maybe we are completely fooled by the fact that he's feeling the effects of the crash (which would be totally normal) and in week 3 he produces a performance on pdb/isola level

 

[Peyroteo94]

"Oh, no. Pogi is riding the aero bike today. He has given up on the Tour and he is just promoting the Y1."

You said Vingegaard could beat Pogacar in this Tour so we are not alone in having bad takes. Am I wrong?

 

[Peyroteo94]

yes ok, but forget about hautacam for a moment. In the ITT he produced similar watts to combloux, but in combloux there was an hard climb before with a strong pace, and if you look at how pog arrived at the finish in combloux and the ITT, it's totally different, he seemed totally in control, comfortable, mouth shut. Let's not even talk about PdB

Without the crash, we could be better without a doubt but poor peloton if that's the case.

 

[snipeheem]

Without the crash, we could be better without a doubt but poor peloton if that's the case.

Lets wait for Ventoux i think he will put the hammer down on that climb

 

[Cycling111]

"Oh, no. Pogi is riding the aero bike today. He has given up on the Tour and he is just promoting the Y1."

If he doesn't feel comfortable he can change bike.

 

[YavorD]

You said Vingegaard could beat Pogacar in this Tour so we are not alone in having bad takes. Am I wrong?

I also said that Pogacar won't reach last years level. Which, if we judge by Hautacam, is a facr

But then again, I became famous with bad takes in the last days 😀.

 

[rafa92]

Without the crash, we could be better without a doubt but poor peloton if that's the case.

the crash had an effect for sure, every rider I saw riding a GT who had a crash as pog, even with just road rash had a bit of problems in the next days

 

[yaf2]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1946492249988034924

View: https://x.com/DrctTim/status/1946492249988034924?t=MsM-HSBBHQapOsWXUKOR-A&s=19

watching this reminds me of stage 8 of 2021 tour pog saying to formolo " lets finish the tour today" its over guys👋

 

[Miha81]

New game 🤣😂

https://twitter.com/x/status/1946480824968151477

View: https://x.com/procycletrumps/status/1946480824968151477

 

[Miha81]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1946492249988034924

View: https://x.com/DrctTim/status/1946492249988034924?t=MsM-HSBBHQapOsWXUKOR-A&s=19

watching this reminds me of stage 8 of 2021 tour pog saying to formolo " lets finish the tour today" its over guys👋

Guess weather people were right

 

[No Excuses]

can POGI beat Eddy merckx by winning all the shirts , and more then 7 stages - i think it is very doable now...

His will be done

 

[hayneplane]

Dont agree with that.

MJ > Lebron and it is not really a discussion. Not only because of finals, MJ was just different.

I wasn’t evaluating the talent but just making a statistical observation.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I also said that Pogacar won't reach last years level. Which, if we judge by Hautacam, is a facr

But then again, I became famous with bad takes in the last days 😀.

I'm yet to see this. Until now, facts are showing you are right but last year he had a way better mountain train than this year (Yates and Sivakov were better and Almeida was there).
I would like to see Visma going crazy on Mont Ventoux just to see if Pogacar can put a performance similar to PdB.
His numbers were worse on Hautacam but if you look to other riders, the gap was bigger on Hautacam than PdB. He still crashed the day before at 45-50 kph , let's see how he is on Mont Ventoux.

 

[Cycling111]

Pogacar wants the stage.

I also think it's the best way to prevent Visma from causing him problems.

 

[yaf2]

Goat is like u aren't going anywhere this is my stage. Stamping Authority 😊

 

[Peyroteo94]

Goat is like u aren't going anywhere this is my stage. Stamping Authority 😊

He wants to cruise in the last week.

 

[Cycling111]

Wellens and Narvaez have dropped , and Kuss in the breakaway.

 

[yaf2]

He wants to cruise in the last week.

I dont think so. He is definitely targeting mont vontaux & loze

 

[scribers]

He went to the red to follow Narvaez on Hautacam, I can't imagine where was Vingegaard.

To me this miscalculation by narvaez reveals the true depth of pogi. Not that he’s shallower than we think, but that he would normally follow that with ease perhaps because of the crash.

 

[yaf2]

Narvaez gone & dead by his own bomb🤣

 

[Peyroteo94]

Narvaez gone & dead by his own bomb🤣

He should rest today and tomorrow until his next bomb on Ventoux

 

[Peyroteo94]

To me this miscalculation by narvaez reveals the true depth of pogi. Not that he’s shallower than we think, but that he would normally follow that with ease perhaps because of the crash.

Pogi still had some energy to attack after this leadout so I don't know. But Pogi went a little bit deep to follow him.