Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[rafa92]

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I was wondering whether pog would finally use his "climbing" bike on ventoux, and it would make absolutely sense given the average gradient close to 9%. But it seems they have decided to ride on the same setup as the TT, so aero bike but with no paint to save weight

 

[Peyroteo94]

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I was wondering whether pog would finally use his "climbing" bike on ventoux, and it would make absolutely sense given the average gradient close to 9%. But it seems they have decided to ride on the same setup as the TT, so aero bike but with no paint to save weight

Matxin already said the aero bike is just 300g heavier than the climbing bike and it is faster when they are riding over 18 kph.

 

[rafa92]

Matxin already said the aero bike is just 300g heavier than the climbing bike and it is faster when they are riding over 18 kph.

I'm just saying that for ventoux he might use a "special" bike, simply with no paint to save weight. Look at the video, the frame is all black with just some rainbow bands. In all other stages the bike had paint (exept the TT)

 

[scribers]

Pretty sure that list is quite a bit longer. Jorgenson likely is on that list.

You tink so?

Who else is on it

 

[Peyroteo94]

I'm just saying that for ventoux he might use a "special" bike, simply with no paint to save weight. Look at the video, the frame is all black with just some rainbow bands. In all other stages the bike had paint (exept the TT)

Paint adds weight so he will not use it. The aero bike saves 20 watts at 50 kph so 150 km will be races at 50kph, he will save a lot before the big attack on Ventoux.

 

[Valv.Piti]

You tink so?

Who else is on it

Its quite obvious. If you have the opportunity, try and watch yesterday's stage from around the crash until the hilly part, Pog was policing Jorgenson for some reason. In the end it helped Wellens when the stage, but..

 

[scribers]

I saw it. Pogi didn’t want to go with the break out of respect for those held up by the crash and didn’t want 3 rabo into that break either. So he marked out the strongest one.

Later Vingo was at the front and was following Jorg too. It looked like a plan to attempt to bridge to the break. Pogi shut it down too

 

[Peyroteo94]

He said Pogacar should have stopped on the road to wait for Vingegaard. They didn't want to stop when their team leader is behind and If Pogacar wanted to show sportmanship, he should have waited.
This just tell us, Visma riders are no longer worried all the time about Vingegaard and they are hunting stages.

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[snipeheem]

He said Pogacar should have stopped on the road to wait for Vingegaard. They didn't want to stop when their team leader is behind and If Pogacar wanted to show sportmanship, he should have waited.
This just tell us, Visma riders are no longer worried all the time about Vingegaard and they are hunting stages.

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They dont belive that Jonas can win a Tour this year, thats why they are coming for their own goals

 

[Cycling111]

Van Aert says he doesn't understand why Pogacar would chase Jorgenson if he lost 30 minutes and that they don't have blacklists.

He has forgotten that they sent Benoot behind Pogcar on the Champs Elysees when he was 7 minutes behind and the Tour was over. LOL

 

[Peyroteo94]

Van Aert says he doesn't understand why Pogacar would chase Jorgenson if he lost 30 minutes and that they don't have blacklists.

He has forgotten that they sent Benoot behind Pogcar on the Champs Elysees when he was 7 minutes behind and the Tour was over. LOL

I think it was Nathan.

 

[scribers]

Dear Wout,

You can’t have three strong in a small break.

Yours truly.
Basic logic

 

[scribers]

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I was wondering whether pog would finally use his "climbing" bike on ventoux, and it would make absolutely sense given the average gradient close to 9%. But it seems they have decided to ride on the same setup as the TT, so aero bike but with no paint to save weight

For some reason he likes that bike. We didn’t see that coming but it’s right there for all to see

 

[SHAD0W93]

Yes indeed hatred is blinding.

UAE and Pogacar even keep a black list of riders they don't want to win or let go because they 'dont like them'... That's just absolutely bad *** crazy.

Many teams have had a “list” of riders that they don’t want to see win.

 

[Rou]

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It's funny how he admits that the organisers added Hautacam, Ventoux, and Loze to 'scare' him.
Time for him to be the Bogeyman.

 

[scribers]

Vuelta comments are promising. There was not a 'no'. Which is normal when a functioning decision is in place. Meaning, another leader from UAE would have certainty for the race so close to it.

Ayuso might be on blacklist, right @dr.eve ?

 

[theyoungest]

Van Aert says he doesn't understand why Pogacar would chase Jorgenson if he lost 30 minutes and that they don't have blacklists.

He has forgotten that they sent Benoot behind Pogcar on the Champs Elysees when he was 7 minutes behind and the Tour was over. LOL

It was Nathan Van Hooydonck. Also, nobody "sent" him after Pogi, and he was allowed to cooperate. He just couldn't, according to his own words. Pogi was going too fast.

Pogi is definitely more likely to have a blacklist, it's pretty clear he does actually. Always complaining about Visma for some reason. It's not becoming for such a big champion, he has nothing to fear from Visma. Just shrug them off like they're a bunch of mosquitoes (or indeed bees), don't whine about them all the time. And don't obsess over someone like Jorgenson, clearly not half as talented as you are.

 

[Cycling111]

Vuelta comments are promising. There was not a 'no'. Which is normal when a functioning decision is in place. Meaning, another leader from UAE would have certainty for the race so close to it.

Ayuso might be on blacklist, right @dr.eve ?

What did he say? Do you think Pogacar will go to the Vuelta?
I think Ayuso put himself on the blacklist. He's been on Pogacar's races startlist , and he was the one who decided not to participate because he wouldn't be the leader. Lombardia last year, for example, even though he was training with Pogacar in Italy.

 

[Rasto]

im wondering if he is riding that aero bike for promotion or cause it is acctualy better cause he wasnt riding it in dauphine in moutains

 

[QueenStagiaire]

"Loze is one of the toughest climbs I've ever done" - Pogacar on winning Tour, Vingegaard, Visma statements and Vuelta participation

It's rest day at the Tour de France but the race never truly stops. Tadej Pogacar, as the race's leader, has talked to the media on the second and final rest day where he has adressed multiple topics...

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It's funny how he admits that the organisers added Hautacam, Ventoux, and Loze to 'scare' him.
Time for him to be the Bogeyman.

He admits something that he doesn‘t know! Only the GOAT can do that!

 

[Bombarolo]

For some reason he likes that bike. We didn’t see that coming but it’s right there for all to see

The bike is clearly good if Pogacar keeps using it.

 

[carolina]

im wondering if he is riding that aero bike for promotion or cause it is acctualy better cause he wasnt riding it in dauphine in moutains

It's promotion. He'll stop using it after the Tour.

 

[Peyroteo94]

For some reason he likes that bike. We didn’t see that coming but it’s right there for all to see

Acordding Matxin this bike is faster over 18 kph (only 300g more).

 

[CyclistAbi]

Imagine what Ayuso must be feeling, watching Lipo.

 

[Rou]

Imagine what Ayuso must be feeling, watching Lipo.

He should learn from Lipo.
Lipo is a young and humble guy who still calls Roglic the leader.