Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Fos]

Yes, because Pogacar usually wins thanks to the collaboration he receives.

In Flanders, Liège, Lombardy... all were solo wins. In the victory in the one where he rode the most kilometers with rivals, Flanders, he was the one who did everything at the front, attacks to select the group and leading.

Which race are you referring to? I don't remember which classic he won thanks to help from his rivals.

I only remember Pidcock in Strade😅

 

[Cycling111]

I only remember Pidcock in Strade😅

it wasn´t a chasing group. In any case, he would have won because it was a 1 vs. 1.

I don't remember when Pogacar has won a race because he was helped in a chasing group. They don't even usually help him in the first group .

 

[Netserk]

Admittedly I simply misremember the gap from last year. It felt like a lot more because once he attacked the race was over, but alright.

Basically I expect him to win in similar fashion to last year.

He was chatting with fans, signing autographs and doing wheelies on his victory lap last year. Well, almost.

 

[yaco]

Yes. Maertens.

And do u know that he crashed out of the giro that year while wearing pink. And not sure if he raced again that year.

When people state emphatically that Cav was the GOAT sprinter I ROTFFLOL every time. Maertens was the absolute GOAT for sprinting. He could also crush an ITT and won the 1976 worlds from a two-man break.

He won 13 stages in the Vuelta and then went to the Giro fto win seven stages. Outrageous performance!

 

[Cycling111]

Is Novak the one who's been dropped with Philipsen?
He hasn't been seen at all during Vuelta. His shape is worrying for the WC

 

[AlpRaid]

He won 13 stages in the Vuelta and then went to the Giro fto win seven stages. Outrageous performance!

And 7 of 11 before crashing out. So he was 20 out of 30 possible stages between Vuelta and Giro that year. And Giro followed the Vuelta by only 5 days.

However, I stand corrected, he was in 2nd on GC when he crashed. 16 secs behind Moser at the time.

 

[Peyroteo94]

He won 13 stages in the Vuelta and then went to the Giro fto win seven stages. Outrageous performance!

Impossible in modern cycling.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Is Novak the one who's been dropped with Philipsen?
He hasn't been seen at all during Vuelta. His shape is worrying for the WC

Yup. Novak is weak, for some reason he isn't in the Tour's team

 

[Peyroteo94]

Yesterday he had an underwhelming performance IMO. He was pretty cooked after his attack and his main strenght is how he "recycles lactate" which gives him an unique ability to attack over and over again. Yesterday, he never recovered from his attack.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Cycling is all about this. People's champion!

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[QueenStagiaire]

Cycling is all about this. People's champion!

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I thought cycling was a bit about bike races as well. It‘s what gets you asked to sign jerseys.

 

[Cycling111]

Yesterday he had an underwhelming performance IMO. He was pretty cooked after his attack and his main strenght is how he "recycles lactate" which gives him an unique ability to attack over and over again. Yesterday, he never recovered from his attack.

Last year, he couldn't dropped off De Lie either; De Lie was in worse shape.

Let's wait until tomorrow.

In any case, the change in training for the time trial may have had an impact.
And he doesn't want to waste too much energy either because he has a time trial in a few days.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Last year, he couldn't dropped off De Lie either; De Lie was in worse shape.

Let's wait until tomorrow.

In any case, the change in training for the time trial may have had an impact.
And he doesn't want to waste too much energy either because he has a time trial in a few days.

This year, he couldn't drop 4 riders

 

[AlpRaid]

Impossible in modern cycling.

But it was considered impossible at the time. And no one has ever come close to it (even during that supposedly “easier” time). This record also remains and stands out in any era, so it would appear that it is a performance for the ages.

 

[Peyroteo94]

But it was considered impossible at the time. And no one has ever come close to it (even during that supposedly “easier” time). This record also remains and stands out in any era, so it would appear that it is a performance for the ages.

Without a doubt.

 

[Cycling111]

This year, he couldn't drop 4 riders

Well, this year, in the zone with the highest percentage, he has dropeed everyone. They caught up with him later. The same thing happened last year with 3 Lotto

 

[Cycling111]

I don't want to think what would be said if Pogacar won a GT with his teammate being second in the stage

 

[Peyroteo94]

Well, this year, in the zone with the highest percentage, he has dropeed everyone. They caught up with him later. The same thing happened last year with 3 Lotto

Tomorrow alarms will ring if he doesn't drop everyone.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Tomorrow alarms will ring if he doesn't drop everyone.

Teddy's attack on a 1.8 km@8% climb after 4000+ meters of climbing should be the race-defining moment. If he doesn't drop everyone then something is off and his post-Tour words were an early warning.

 

[Shortcut]

Teddy's attack on a 1.8 km@8% climb after 4000+ meters of climbing should be the race-defining moment. If he doesn't drop everyone then something is off and his post-Tour words were an early warning.

After Montreal there are 4 races and if he wins 3 of them he would have again brilliant season. Next week he has TT so i still think that should impact his preparation and would read to much if he doesn't win Montreal.

 

[AlpRaid]

Tomorrow alarms will ring if he doesn't drop everyone.

Nah. Besides he likely will. And even if he doesn’t, he is still The Man for the Worlds.

 

[AlpRaid]

After Montreal there are 4 races and if he wins 3 of them he would have again brilliant season. Next week he has TT so i still think that should impact his preparation and would read to much if he doesn't win Montreal.

He’s already had a brilliant season. He is favored to win 4 of his next 6 races. And possibly the other 2.

 

[AlpRaid]

I don't want to think what would be said if Pogacar won a GT with his teammate being second in the stage

…just wait for the Worlds. Could be five UAEs in top 5. That will be fun.

 

[Lequack]

If Vinge wins the Giro as well, his palmeres will be better than Pogs.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Teddy's attack on a 1.8 km@8% climb after 4000+ meters of climbing should be the race-defining moment. If he doesn't drop everyone then something is off and his post-Tour words were an early warning.

His training numbers were good but he never posted a 6 hours ride so I don't know how good he really is.