Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Peyroteo94]

Reading some Mexicans on social media, I'm not sure if I want Del Toro to go to the Tour as a domestique .
It's going to be an Ayuso 2.0. Even if Del Toro thinks differently, that media frenzy isn't good for a Tour. Winning his fifth Tour is crucial, and Pogacar needs a team free of media problems.
Pogacar is fed up with all the circus surrounding the Tour.; the last thing he needs is to add Mexican journalists.

In Lombardy they let Del Toro focus on his position, but in the Tour they can't do that. Besides, Almeida is already thingin in his result, and one domestique focused on the podium is enough.

Why? Pogacar won the 2024 TdF and Almeida was riding for his 4th place since PdB.

 

[Cycling111]

Why? Pogacar won the 2024 TdF and Almeida was riding for his 4th place since PdB.

Just because he's done it once doesn't mean he should go into the Tour with the preconceived notion that another cyclist is thinking about his result.

In any case, you're talking about one, not two. By the way, we already saw what happens when two domestiques want to be on the podium and therefore don't want to be the one sacrificed on the Galibier...
And all the media hype surrounding Del Toro is very tiresome; I don't even want to think about what that would be like in the Tour.
Pogacar would retire on the second day

 

[Peyroteo94]

Just because he's done it once doesn't mean he should go into the Tour with the preconceived notion that another cyclist is thinking about his result.

In any case, you're talking about one, not two. By the way, we already saw what happens when two domestiques want to be on the podium and therefore don't want to be the one sacrificed on the Galibier...
And all the media hype surrounding Del Toro is very tiresome; I don't even want to think about what that would be like in the Tour.
Pogacar would retire on the second day

Almeida went to help and he did. Maybe you don't remember but Almeida worked a lot for Pogacar on Galibier and Adet. When Pogacar closed the TdF on stage 15, Almeida had a free card to play his own Tour. Ayuso tried to not work already on Galibier.
Regarding Del Toro, I'm pretty sure he will work if he rides the TdF. Probably will get a chance to ride his own race because I'm pretty sure Pogacar will close the Tour on Tourmalet.

 

[yaf2]

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Every race organizer in the world knows he has to do something to attract the best rider in the world. 🐐 effect

 

[red_flanders]

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For sure a better race if he shows!

 

[Peyroteo94]

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I hope he doesn't race it. He doesn't need E3 to prepare RVV.

 

[yaf2]

I hope he doesn't race it. He doesn't need E3 to prepare RVV.

why wouldn't he? Its 2x qwaremont & is a race historically won by great riders.

 

[The bald fraud]

It is a prestigious classic Pogacar has not won yet. And a good (possibly the best) preparatory race for RVV. Bring it on!

 

[Cycling111]

Pogacar doesn't want to be away from home for long and wants to go to Australia . This news makes no sense. This journalist hasn't been right in a long time.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1983974478079303708

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[Peyroteo94]

Pogacar doesn't want to be away from home for long and wants to go to Australia . This news makes no sense. This journalist hasn't been right in a long time.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1983974478079303708

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That's not true. Tour Down under is a very special race to Pogacar.

 

[Cycling111]

That's not true. Tour Down under is a very special race to Pogacar.

And? The Vuelta is also special to him because it was his first Grand Tour and where he won his first stages. Pogacar has always said that the Vuelta is special to him, but he hasn't returned.T
his news doesn't make sense because Pogacar is currently prioritizing other things over nostalgia or early professional memories.

 

[Salvarani]

Its nice weather in Australia.

Some early race days, warm-up and then go into classics mode.

If he is not riding UAE Tour next season, then this is a fun choice even if it is earlier.

 

[Peyroteo94]

And? The Vuelta is also special to him because it was his first Grand Tour and where he won his first stages. Pogacar has always said that the Vuelta is special to him, but he hasn't returned.T
his news doesn't make sense because Pogacar is currently prioritizing other things over nostalgia or early professional memories.

Pogacar's business manager confesses that Pogacar has two stage races at the top of his checklist

2024 is most definitely the year of Tadej Pogacar. The Slovenian from UAE Team Emirates won every race he entered this year, with Milan-Sanremo being the only exception. The Giro d'Italia, Tour de Fra...

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I didn't say he will race, I'm just saying it's not ridiculous to think Pogacar will race the Tour Down Under.

 

[Cycling111]

Pogacar's business manager confesses that Pogacar has two stage races at the top of his checklist

2024 is most definitely the year of Tadej Pogacar. The Slovenian from UAE Team Emirates won every race he entered this year, with Milan-Sanremo being the only exception. The Giro d'Italia, Tour de Fra...

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I didn't say he will race, I'm just saying it's not ridiculous to think Pogacar will race the Tour Down Under.

Starting the season in January doesn't make sense to him right now. It would be a mistake.

The Vuelta is just as, if not more, special for him, and other factors have prevailed.
Adapting the start of the season to January would be a bad decision.

 

[Salvarani]

Makes perfect sense for some early days and in a race/country that could be fun to just race. Especially, with the WC jersey.... before focusing on classics.

Can we ban the word "Vuelta" in here? Nobody cares.

 

[KZD]

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Hope that Pogačar rides it and skips Amstel and Flèche instead.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Hope that Pogačar rides it and skips Amstel and Flèche instead.

I hope he doesn't race any of them.
However, Ardennes treble > E3 Harelbeke

 

[Berniece]

Starting the season in January doesn't make sense to him right now. It would be a mistake.

Why would it be a mistake? He’s never tired, he can race all season long

 

[Salvarani]

Why would it be a mistake? He’s never tired, he can race all season long

Because he takes needed breaks at times as well, and not too many race days outside of his targets.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Makes perfect sense for some early days and in a race/country that could be fun to just race. Especially, with the WC jersey.... before focusing on classics.

Can we ban the word "Vuelta" in here? Nobody cares.

I don't know if it's good for him. He knows better than us. However, I remember him saying he would like to spend more time at home with Urska. I think he needs going to Australia is not that great, specially when he will be far from home when he starts RVV.

RVV
PR
AGR
FW
LBL
4 or 5 days at home and then Sierra Nevada
Tour recons
Dauphiné/Suisse
Isola
TdF

He will just break after the Tour. I don't know if there is any possibility of Urska going to Australia but if she is not going, I can't see Pogacar going there to be honest.
I can be totally wrong though.

 

[Salvarani]

I don't know if it's good for him. He knows better than us. However, I remember him saying he would like to spend more time at home with Urska. I think he needs going to Australia is not that great, specially when he will be far from home when he starts RVV.

RVV
PR
AGR
FW
LBL
4 or 5 days at home and then Sierra Nevada
Tour recons
Dauphiné/Suisse
Isola
TdF

He will just break after the Tour. I don't know if there is any possibility of Urska going to Australia but if she is not going, I can't see Pogacar going there to be honest.
I can be totally wrong though.

I think this is overthinking it.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

If Pogacar doesnt want post Tour burnout feelings again he had better limit his spring classics schudule to monuments only (and skip Dauphine). Even then Vuelta would probably be too much ( due to neccessity of peaking for cobbled monuments, which is somewhat different and more challenging due to MVP). IMO its cobbles vs Vuelta choice given that the Tour is a must. Vuelta loses as long as he wants Roubaix

 

[Salvarani]

If Pogacar doesnt want post Tour burnout feelings again he had better limit his spring classics schudule to monuments only (and skip Dauphine). Even then Vuelta would probably be too much ( due to neccessity of peaking for cobbled monuments, which is somewhat different and more challenging due to MVP). IMO its cobbles vs Vuelta choice given that the Tour is a must. Vuelta loses as long as he wants Roubaix

Dauphine or another is part of the prep before Tour, so he wont skip that.

His spring should probably be to do some early race and then focus on the classics.

Just like last season, basically. Starting with TDU doesnt really matter. Spending 2 week in Australia doesnt sound too bad imo. He still go home and have month or so SB. It like can early training camp with racing involved to TDU. Plus it is cool for him and the race for him to take part, if that is really the plan.

And it makes sense to try and win MSR/Roubaix while he still have the best chance to do so. Winning all monuments is something he really wants to do, few has done it so understandable to me.

The choice is kind of easy on what to sacrifice.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Dauphine or another is part of the prep before Tour, so he wont skip that.

His spring should probably be to do some early race and then focus on the classics.

Just like last season, basically.

It makes try and win MSR/Roubaix while he still have the best chance to do so. Winning all monuments is something he really wants to do, few has done it so understandable to me.

The choice is kind of easy on what to sacrifice.

Tour of Slovenia is much less pressure and an easier build up. He almost peaked at Dauphine to beat Vingo convincingly. As for the rest of your post, surely he wants to try the most challenging one day races while at his peak, Vuelta has to wait now.

 

[Salvarani]

Tour of Slovenia is much less pressure and an easier build up. He almost peaked at Dauphine to beat Vingo convincingly. As for the rest of your post, surely he wants to try the most challenging one day races while at his peak.

He doesnt want an easier build-up or avoid pressure.

I think you guys have it misconstrued.

The better preparation is to do Dauphine or Suisse. Probably the former.

It is not about making it too easy before the Tour. Having done very little stage-racing prior with the classics.

Some still seem to hope by picking "easier" races or limiting race days even more... that he will do Vuelta anyway... despite targeting all the monuments, Tour + worlds. It is very unlikely to happen in such a year and a terrible idea.