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oh man you write this and than claim I am embarrasing myself; if you know nothing about history and geography just stay out of it, kiddoLook kiddo, I understand that you get very angry because people are questioning your localLanceboy(btw that is the reason of this section if you dont like it dont come) and to be fair everybody must be presumed innocent until the contrary is demonstrated, no matter how Pantani-esque the performance may be, but you have to stop with the charade , you are embarrassing yourself.
Go,read Slavo> https://quod.lib.umich.edu/j/jii/4750978.0006.202/--spectre-of-balkan?rgn=main;view=fulltext
Yes, you dont like to be grouped with those "serbs/croats/macedonians" yuk!!, the same way the Serbs dont like to be grouped with the Moldovans, but guess what? Tough luck, everybody considers a FRY country as culturally Balkan and "eastern-european" . People will group Ljubljana with Zagreb, Belgrade, Kiev or Lublin not with Madrid, Amsterdam,Milan or London. When people in the "west" were dealing with John Mayor, Mitterrand or Felipe Gonzalez you have to somehow directly or indirectly deal with Milosevic and before him with Tito, it doesnt get more "Balkan " than that.
BTW I dont know what is your desire to be grouped with the "west" or with a fictional mittel-Europa (as if you have more in common with the Hungarians, Austrians and Germans than with the Croats and Serbs) , be proud of who you are , instead of wishing to be in the same group with the Italians and the English.
Stop with your reasonable arguments, you Sovietoh man you write this and than claim I am embarrasing myself; if you know nothing about history and geography just stay out of it, kiddo
I dont care if people group Slovenia with Serbs and Croats, hell I liked living in Yugoslavia, what I care about is what truth is; Slovenia is NOT part of balkan peninsula https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Balkan_Peninsula.svg
Slovenia is NOT in eastern Europe https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/what-countries-are-in-eastern-europe.html
He's definitely a relatively burly GT rider.One thing that strikes me as a viewer is that pogi is not from the rail-thin schleck, Wiggins, froomesque mold. Quite the opposite really, even has muscle mass on him.
That's the internet way!Anyway, it clogs the thread and adds very little.
Ah, the damage control after an alien performance. How have we missed those...This explains it all (sorry if already posted). Does not sound like anything we've heard before:
https://www.businessinsider.com/defending-tour-de-france-champ-freakish-powers-recovery-2021-6
Plus the fact that after he had turned himself inside out launching Pogacar, he didn't grind to a standstill as usually happens. No, he held on and eventually came in a few seconds behind the Carapaz group of GC riders.Where was this Formolo at the Giro?
I expect him to be one of the best on a long hilly stage, but that was probably his best climbing performance ever, as a domestique.
The hard race from the start probably helped him and we know that he has a good engine and great endurance, but still...
Formolo going from breathing like a stranded fish to easily riding with the other contenders was probably even more absurd than Pogacar's effort. Incredible entertainment.Plus the fact that after he had turned himself inside out launching Pogacar, he didn't grind to a standstill as usually happens. No, he held on and eventually came in a few seconds behind the Carapaz group of GC riders.
Couldn't believe how strong he was yesterday.
What a pisstake the ride was. Hilarious.
So in the spirit of speculation: The passport intends to establish what is natural to an individual. Could one trick be to shoot for establishing a combo of doped values that nonetheless do not produce passport flags as normal when the athlete enters the passport system? That way one could perhaps have more leeway as a pro. Would this be possible?
This would of course imply doping as a junior.
Maybe he needed the Giro to be at his best, and the day before yesterday he finished in the last group (161st), and I think he let go about ~80 km to go. Likewise, I think Majka will be fresh today while Formolo will drop early if there's no panic.Where was this Formolo at the Giro?
I expect him to be one of the best on a long hilly stage, but that was probably his best climbing performance ever, as a domestique.
The hard race from the start probably helped him and we know that he has a good engine and great endurance, but still...
And it was quite ridiculous that he attacked the peloton in the flat circuits to win solo. It's difficult to even imagine a rider with so little explosivity get away like that.What race did basso win almost everyday without mountains? Denmark?
Slovenia, like it or not, is an Eastern European country. Just like Hungary. But that's just a convenient Cold War way to account for political divisions, in the sense that "Western Europe" orbited around the NATO alliance and "Eastern Europe" around Moscow. I don't think that's in question.
Yeah but the team does not look particularly strong apart from Pogacar. Hirschi arguably even quite lost his spark (not necessarily counting the Tour but more the whole season)Protection would not be about Slovenia. It would be about UAE oil money.
They're working on that a bit.Yeah but the team does not look particularly strong apart from Pogacar. Hirschi arguably even quite lost his spark (not necessarily counting the Tour but more the whole season)
You mean Central Europe?Just popping into the Clinic to discuss the geography of Eastern Europe.
I don't think his cadence is lower than Armstrong's. IIRC, both climb at ~90 rpm.I'm interested in seeing a whole new riding technique to what we have seen more recently.
Armstrong / Froome would use small gears, but egg whisk legs, constantly spinning at a ridiculously high rate.
We saw yesterday that TP was in a larger gear and peddling more slowly than those guys.
What has changed? What are the new techniques?
Does TP count as an old school 'grinder' pushing big gears on climbs?
Or am I incorrect and incredibly he is doing the egg whisk legs, but in a higher gear?
Pogacar wasn't grinding at all, his cadence only dropped in the saddle a couple of times from what I saw. I'd guess his cadence was at least mid 80s most of the time as opposed to Padun who seemed to be going along at about 50 rpm in the saddle at the Dauphine. That's real grinding.I'm interested in seeing a whole new riding technique to what we have seen more recently.
Armstrong / Froome would use small gears, but egg whisk legs, constantly spinning at a ridiculously high rate.
We saw yesterday that TP was in a larger gear and peddling more slowly than those guys.
What has changed? What are the new techniques?
Does TP count as an old school 'grinder' pushing big gears on climbs?
Or am I incorrect and incredibly he is doing the egg whisk legs, but in a higher gear?
Pretty sure Armstrong climbed at closer to 95rpm? But logically (or basic math) if TP is climbing at a similar speed to Lance TP would be lower than 90rpm on average to push the big ring - even on maybe a 27 tooth rear cog.I don't think his cadence is lower than Armstrong's. IIRC, both climb at ~90 rpm.
I'm interested in seeing a whole new riding technique to what we have seen more recently.
Armstrong / Froome would use small gears, but egg whisk legs, constantly spinning at a ridiculously high rate.
We saw yesterday that TP was in a larger gear and peddling more slowly than those guys.
What has changed? What are the new techniques?
Does TP count as an old school 'grinder' pushing big gears on climbs?
Or am I incorrect and incredibly he is doing the egg whisk legs, but in a higher gear?
To be fair to the guy he has 4 TDFs if the freak show Lance didn't turn up.
more disinformation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Aligned_MovementSlovenia, like it or not, is an Eastern European country. Just like Hungary. But that's just a convenient Cold War way to account for political divisions, in the sense that "Western Europe" orbited around the NATO alliance and "Eastern Europe" around Moscow. I don't think that's in question.
I've been to Slovenia on business trips and the western part feels a bit like Western Europe, but the eastern and southern parts are more Balkan feeling. Regardless, I loved it and found Slovenians to be excellent business hosts, very pragmatic in an appealing way!
Back to the immediate topic at hand: We saw an amazing performance yesterday that can be partly explained by rival teams who had been fatally weakened (Ineos, TJV) and had no strategy, and partly by a previous, grueling stage in which TP could have been put under serious pressure but was let off the hook (Movistar?) a bit, putting his rivals on the back foot and giving him a breather.
That said, TP's performance since joining the WT have been...extraterrestrial. But since we don't know what a clean peloton with modern training and equipment looks like, it's going to be all conjecture unless he fails atest or somebody spills the beans...
Yeah but thats the logical nature of competion were corruption is at stake. For the sake of intrests they wont let Pogacar (or anybody) dominate too much because it would endanger the spectacle.