Tadej Pogacar and Mauro Giannetti

[YellowSocks]

Seems a bit strange to present the publications of one entity (I'm not sure if it's a newspaper, broadcast channel or only a website) as the actions of a nation...

Never mind, the usual ‘The French always accuse others of doping because their riders are not good’.

 

[pelotonIQ]

Seems a bit strange to present the publications of one entity (I'm not sure if it's a newspaper, broadcast channel or only a website) as the actions of a nation...

It starts with one.

 

[E_F_]

what is the business case for UAE?

You ask them. There's clearly a business case. Otherwise they wouldn't be doing it. My guess is they get to dominate a relatively popular sport and it's dirt cheap compared to football.

 

[Ripper]

Watch how disgusting the French media are, few days before Paris-Roubaix they release an article insinuating Pogacar is doping.

L'avenir de son équipe, le dopage, la domination de Pogacar, Paris-Roubaix... Le constat très cash de Bernaudeau sur l'état du cyclisme mondial

À quelques jours de Paris-Roubaix, Jean-René Bernaudeau, patron de l'équipe TotalEnergies, s'est longuement confié à RMC Sport. Soupçons de dopage autour de Tadej Pogacar, pistes pour améliorer le cyclisme mondial, rumeurs de partenariat entre TotalEnergies et Ineos-Grenadiers... Le dirigeant...

rmcsport.bfmtv.com

Did you read the article?

 

[Cookster15]

Did you read the article?

Well, I’d love to but it’s in French? I often drop in here via my phone. Not savvy enough to do a quick translation on my phone

 

[Ripper]

Well, I’d love to but it’s in French? I often drop in here via my phone. Not savvy enough to do a quick translation on my phone

I don't think it makes any heavy accusations. He evens says he doesn't "doubt". Of course he would also like to see an offering up of evidence ... how many watts actually produced, keeping samples for years, etc. But it does not seem like much of a hatchet job whatsoever. I mean, it is not even close to accusation territory, and certainly not over the top.

As for the timing ... well, ummmm, there's a bike race happening and they want to get some attention.

 

[pelotonIQ]

Did you read the article?

Yes, did you?

 

[Berniece]

wow i would like to see the full article if anyone has access. i would subscribe but the last time i subscribed to something in a language i didn't understand they charged my credit card for 9 months before i could get it cancelled.

Here you go.

https://archive.ph/nBXbl

 

[Extinction]

So if you look at cycling cycle.. first @ hundred years it existed, nothing much, Lance, cancer, Livestrong ,yellow wristbands worldwide.. Flew too close to the sun, cycling and cyclists became an easy joke about doping, PEDs..phase 2..big investors keep seeing opportunity, can't figure out how to exploit it, monetize it..some having varying degrees of success.. Pogacar and his rivals are attracting attention.. But your theory of a complete conspiracy, thousands of people keeping a secret for years, for free, nothing, absolutely nothing in it for them.. Doesn't make sense.
As Armchair points out.. Should the media, if they know something ignore it? Again the same questions repeat across all organizations.. What's in it for them to keep the secret? Or as many here are posting, it's obvious, out in the open, but being ignored because..... None of it makes sense. When Walsh and others came to print they had numerous confirmed data sources.. Pogacar been at high pro level since 2018.. Amounts of information today compared to Armstrong era are not similar in any way.

So, you still believe in fairy tales?

 

[BubbaChuck]

lets be honest,when you are goat,off course thye will hate you.what other choice do thye have.picture if this was mercxs times,when noone could win anything.

 

[Casual cyclist]

lets be honest,when you are goat,off course thye will hate you.what other choice do thye have.picture if this was mercxs times,when noone could win anything.

If I translated your message from the iphone/android into plain version of English correctly, you are saying that Pogo is clean as a whistle and his bike is as "acoustic" as they come. The serial miracles on two wheels we are witnessing are therefore just expected consequences of loads of natural talent and gobs of hard zone 2 riding. Eating porridge and pancakes is not to be underestimated as well. Got that. Thanks for a fresh outlook.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

If I translated your message from the iphone/android into plain version of English correctly, you are saying that Pogo is clean as a whistle and his bike is as "acoustic" as they come. The serial miracles on two wheels we are witnessing are therefore just expected consequences of loads of natural talent and gobs of hard zone 2 riding. Eating porridge and pancakes is not to be underestimated as well. Got that. Thanks for a fresh outlook.

No. It's the Haribo that makes him truly strong!
We should all eat 1kg every day, so we become as strong as Pogi!

 

[BubbaChuck]

No,its special mamba juice,that only pog is slurping.while rest are packing grandmother shepards pie for breakfest.that evil slovenia,while rest are suckers.we call this salt in our country.

 

[noob]

So much for LR "Pog is far from the favourite"

 

[acm]

Hahaha, you have to be kidding me

 

[noob]

Hahaha, you have to be kidding me

Yeah as if he would even be here if it wasn't to win.

Even my noob self would know he goes nowhere he's not the favourite

 

[acm]

Yeah as if he would even be here if it wasn't to win.

Even my noob self would know he goes nowhere he's not the favourite

Actually I wasn't referring to your comment, but yeah I agree.

 

[noob]

Actually I wasn't referring to your comment, but yeah I agree.

I don't understand why LR would think that way even. Pog is here to ruin every race there is. I even switched of TIz now. I can't stand it

 

[Miss Violet Smith]

1) There is absolutely no way MVDP is not also on the sauce.

2) Forget doping and motors, I am thinking deals and rigged races.

 

[noob]

1) There is absolutely no way MVDP is not also on the sauce.

2) Forget doping and motors, I am thinking deals and rigged races.

1. Yes
2. Nothing would really surprise me, but the results shows too little variation for it to make sense.

 

[Rackham]

Of course VdP is juiced. But this PR showed once again that Pog will drop others on the flat simply because of the power in his legs.

No need for so called cycling experts to bombard us with theory about weight etc. when the simple fact is Pog has a surreal amount of power, for xyz reasons. It's enough to destroy everyone who isn't VdP in Roubaix.

 

[noob]

I am just a tiny bit relieved now. A tiny.

 

[MartinGT]

I don't think people have ever denied what Mvdp is on. But at least he 'stays in his lane' so to speak.

 

[pastronef]

1) There is absolutely no way MVDP is not also on the sauce.

2) Forget doping and motors, I am thinking deals and rigged races.

what?

 

[Froome]

Everytime this dirty guy helped by Gianetti and matxin -the dealers of Ricco, the world is a better and clean place to be.