Tadej Pogacar and Mauro Giannetti

[Red Rick]

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It certainly looks suspicious and needs to get more attention, ad the pressing for that otherwordly seated attack where others just vanish for the distance. I also saw calculations on X that during the attack he was putting 15-20% more power/speed compared to the competition. I think the difference is too big to be achieved by better PEDs only. This UAE Gianetti&Dopacar combination is making me sick. Was waiting for even LBL, but now i feel like watching a short replay, cause this clown is attending there too.
P.S. presses the exact sama position on handlebars for both sides.

20% more when you can attack when the rest is on the limit is absolutely nothing, that's basically every attack ever.

And this is where the talk of motors completely loses me. Any objectivity and context is replaced by pure dogmatic thinking, and the Clinic becomes everything outsiders like to think it is.

 

[Stablo]

20% more when you can attack when the rest is on the limit is absolutely nothing, that's basically every attack ever.

And this is where the talk of motors completely loses me. Any objectivity and context is replaced by pure dogmatic thinking, and the Clinic becomes everything outsiders like to think it is.

So everybody is always on the limit and Poggie just never is while doing his natural thing, gotcha.
Did you even watch the link of weirdly placed pressing of the thumbs and combine that with an exactly same moment seated attack? Getting tens of meters distance in a few seconds quite effortless. Never seen that kind of ease at the Mur de Huy, but yes it's Dopacar with the unhuman super attacks again after again with just some (better) juice.
If there is or has been an example of an E-bike use, that thing from yeasterday is the clearest one of them. Look at it, the pressing and then vroom vroom on the saddle.

Off course we have some people here that know for sure motors aren't and haven't even been used. I guess they have ripped apart for example Poggies bike and seen there's nothing.

 

[Divergence]

So everybody is always on the limit and Poggie just never is while doing his natural thing, gotcha.
Did you even watch the link of weirdly placed pressing of the thumbs and combine that with an exactly same moment seated attack? Getting tens of meters distance in a few seconds quite effortless. Never seen that kind of ease at the Mur de Huy, but yes it's Dopacar with the unhuman super attacks again after again with just some (better) juice.
If there is or has been an example of an E-bike use, that thing from yeasterday is the clearest one of them. Look at it, the pressing and then vroom vroom on the saddle.

Off course we have some people here that know for sure motors aren't and haven't even been used. I guess they have ripped apart for example Poggies bike and seen there's nothing.

At the moment, the preponderance of evidence is that he is not using a motor, so unless you have taken his bike apart and found one your last line of reasoning is void.
Additionally, the Dura Ace shifters have a button on top of the hoods (I use them to change screens on my Edge) so even if he pressed them(I am not even sure he was pressing on the hoods, it is a normal hand position that I use sometimes as well) it could have been to either shift a gear of swap the screen.
Lastly, gaining 20% on a 20s interval whilst seated (in the wet also) is nothing that is hugely noteworthy. Many riders have done it.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

At the moment, the preponderance of evidence is that he is not using a motor, so unless you have taken his bike apart and found one your last line of reasoning is void.
Additionally, the Dura Ace shifters have a button on top of the hoods (I use them to change screens on my Edge) so even if he pressed them(I am not even sure he was pressing on the hoods, it is a normal hand position that I use sometimes as well) it could have been to either shift a gear of swap the screen.
Lastly, gaining 20% on a 20s interval whilst seated (in the wet also) is nothing that is hugely noteworthy. Many riders have done it.

To me, in the shot from above before the attack, he clearly seems to shift gear imo, than he looks behind, see's there's already noone on his wheel and than in an instant the attack starts, with a gear granting him a high cadence. That's what I saw, you can also see how he's moving about on the bike, he just doesn't go out of the saddle in that moment, but later, after looking back like twice more, he goes out of the saddle for a while.

Maybe if someone pointed out what was especially motor-esque I could look at it again and at least see what is meant. Beacuse he clearly is using all of his body, moving quite a bit for his standard, and pulling like a madman on his bike, even though seated. Overall his movement during the attack looks pretty violent to me. I honestly don't understand that for some this seems to be invisible. But okay, for me the motor-thingy seems to be invisible, so pointers please.

 

[Stablo]

Well some here think the attack wasn't anything special, then some think it's one the sickest examples of recent years, mainly done by this one dirty cheater again after again. There was even the scrutiny with the bike after WC last year. That and the Tour got me convinced among many things, that the e-bike cant be ruled out either. Yesterday then was another prime example.
And. They. Can't. Bust. The. Biggest. Star.
It would be too damaging. What a freaking sh*tshow this has become.

And to be honest, yes that thumb pressing on the exact moment of the attack is suspicious as hell. Even before that evidence, the attack looked veeryy suspicious, like many mentioned yeasterday.

 

[Stablo]

To me, in the shot from above before the attack, he clearly seems to shift gear imo, than he looks behind, see's there's already noone on his wheel and than in an instant the attack starts, with a gear granting him a high cadence. That's what I saw, you can also see how he's moving about on the bike, he just doesn't go out of the saddle in that moment, but later, after looking back like twice more, he goes out of the saddle for a while.

Maybe if someone pointed out what was especially motor-esque I could look at it again and at least see what is meant. Beacuse he clearly is using all of his body, moving quite a bit for his standard, and pulling like a madman on his bike, even though seated. Overall his movement during the attack looks pretty violent to me. I honestly don't understand that for some this seems to be invisible. But okay, for me the motor-thingy seems to be invisible, so pointers please.

Oh yeah it was completely natural, i see it now. So nothing to see here in this part of the forum. All can go to the fanboy conversation to praise Poggie-boy and his otherwordly natural boundaries breaking talent. Geez. It was a gear change afterall. That explains the past few seasons of effortless around year wins/attacks.
P.S. That attack had nothing to do with an natural looking one, if the irony didn't open. Vroom vroom.

 

[Abedfo]

Name a clean cyclist in history who turns up every race day in perfect condition and on every terrain blitzs everyone.

Could you imagine contador beating boonen or cancellara on the stones or Armstrong beating museeuw it's crazy.