Tadej Pogacar and Mauro Giannetti

[YellowSocks]

Commentator on French TV today: 'It seems easy for him at first glance, but if you look closely, you'll see that his belly moves a lot when he breathes, that indicates he's making a real effort.'

Why?

 

[AttaqueDeRolland]

Tadej has ridden like this very early on so it there is an issue; it involves every rider that wins a race.

Again, no. It's not just about winning. It's not hard to believe that Dylan Groenewegen is an excellent sprinter. He's built like a weightlifter and drops like a sack of potatoes when the gradient hits three percent. Credibility is a spectrum, and when you're a highly specialized rider, it's not difficult to believe that there's a possibility you're clean, not even when you're the best in the world at that one particular thing. But that's the thing about Pogi. He's the best at genuinely everything. He can outsprint sprinters, outclimb climbers, outwatt wattage monsters on the cobbles, and outside of freaky Remco - who is, well, a highly specialized rider - he also routinely smashes his adversaries when riding contre-la-montre. And even then, it's not just exclusively about how much he wins. It's also very much about how he wins. His nose-breathing, unphased, seated-acceleration-dominance is just so much outside the aforementioned spectrum of credibility that it's completely uncharted waters.

 

[Red Rick]

A man must accept his fate, or be destroyed by it. 😁

No I was mostly not saying it because like 50% of the quote are profane words

 

[Krzysztof_O]

No I was mostly not saying it because like 50% of the quote are profane words

Teddy is a good boy who wins races sometimes. Accept it, move on and your life will be better!

 

[Red Rick]

Very strong leap of logic on the protection.

How is it a strong leap of logic when there is literally precedent from the same organisation as recent as 20 years ago.

 

[Raest]

Well that saved me 31 quid... Cheers Pog

 

[YellowSocks]

I propose that from now on cycling should stay away from Combloux. There are always problems there.

 

[MartinGT]

I know several who have enjoyed Pog now saying they cba watching races with him.

Uci need to pop him otherwise the viewership will just drop further

 

[MartinGT]

Well that saved me 31 quid... Cheers Pog

Watch the MTB instead.

 

[Mayomaniac]

I know several who have enjoyed Pog now saying they cba watching races with him.

Uci need to pop him otherwise the viewership will just drop further

For what is worth this year's Giro had better ratings in Italy and the best in 10 years on German Eurosport. He isn't the draw cycling media wants him to be.

 

[Notarobot]

Which rider are you talking about? Several guys rode the TT that way yesterday. Today Jorgenson scarcely got out of the saddle on the last climb. Maybe there is now parity in your fantasy parade.

I think you misread or misunderstood my comment

 

[Ilmaestro99]

You've got a 2 time tour de France winner in his prime, peaking towards his main goal, no doubt on the full rabobank programe, and he's accelerating out of the saddle and he can't hold the wheel of the guy riding seated in front of him ahahahahaha. Crazy.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Very strong leap of logic on the protection. Although the UAE team ownership has the money and political clout to pull it off if any team does.
Armstrong was a clumsy gangster move with too many people familiar with his history. Tadej has ridden like this very early on so it there is an issue; it involves every rider that wins a race. That would be an equally viable and fantastical conclusion, too.

Look at the connection between the emirates (the state) and the UCI, they pay them lots of money to host various sorts of cycling WCs for them (urban/bmx, e-cycling and in the coming years granfondo, road and track wcs). At the same time they have a state sponsored team. Very easy to hide some payments that way...

 

[Abedfo]

Pogacar a true marvel. One of the few people in history who can increase the velocity of a bike without changing gear or cadence.

 

[Notarobot]

Poga the bike-bender!

 

[Mayomaniac]

Pogacar a true marvel. One of the few people in history who can increase the velocity of a bike without changing gear or cadence.

Tbf, you can program the bottoms on top of the shimano hoods for shifting, so that you don't need to change your hand position to shift before an attack, but that doesn't make what he does look less unnatural...

 

[Mayomaniac]

To play devil's advocate, UAE are probably stupid enough to bring out max short acting rocket fuel and monoxide for the whole team because Pogacar's ego got a boo-boo in that TT. Rabo are probably still not showing all of their cards, so it is possible that it's gonna be a lot closer in the Tour.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I hope we'll see him do backflips on the bike while dropping Vingegaard during the Tour. Unlike his cycling contenders, Simone Biles may be able to offer up some real competition.

 

[Rackham]

Suddenly all the fantastic 4 hype from Sunday is dead.

It turns out Finestre is probably going to be the peak cycling entertainment of the year and at this rate the TdF winner will have a 5+ minutes margin again.

 

[Tim Cahill]

To play devil's advocate, UAE are probably stupid enough to bring out max short acting rocket fuel and monoxide for the whole team because Pogacar's ego got a boo-boo in that TT. Rabo are probably still not showing all of their cards, so it is possible that it's gonna be a lot closer in the Tour.

Something very fast acting definitely, the tt bike is slightly worse I think but nothing that would justify this kind of differential swing. Another comical outlier demonstration that make no sense within the context of the race, PdB last year as well as Torres/Avenir last stage. Tim Wellens suddenly looking like peak Richard Porte was quite funny though, Gianetti never did have much in the way of shame.

 

[hfer07]

As much as I respect Poga.... I must say it's getting ridiculous and to be blunt- he's just mocking everyone at this point.

 

[DONCA]

mRNA. Gene doping.

I'm really worried about his health

or it's a motor and I'm worried about the sport

https://twitter.com/x/status/1933537281253466611

View: https://x.com/dauphine/status/1933537281253466611

At 0:05 he turns his head towards the “switch”, presses the button and suddenly he accelerates and the gap opens up. Do you guys turn your head when you "switch" gear? Nothing to see here

The fact how easily he drops his opponents is alarming. Apart from the fact that he doesn't look tired at all after crossing the finish line

 

[Red Rick]

 

[Luthor]

As much as I respect Poga.... I must say it's getting ridiculous and to be blunt- he's just mocking everyone at this point.

Despite his general attitude and comments, he is actually quite arrogant in terms of actions.
He is not even pretending at this point.

Like if I would dope I would at least try to look tired at end, say something about having a good day, go out of saddle before dropping my rival and have a smaller gap to make it believable.

Meanwhile he looks fresh, he says some mockery about Urska at the end, drops Vingo seated and just destroyed everyone.

Bro just doesn't give a *** about cycling being believable.

 

[Gratemans]

Here we go again. I've never wanted a rider to crash until now tbh, I've got tired of this cheat rider and his shitty team. Ruined cycling since 2020 and nothing has been done yet.

Yet at this exact same mountain a couple years ago I got convinced that that other rider is a cheat as well 😉
Also, I never want anyone to crash, that's just in bad taste.