Tadej Pogacar and Mauro Giannetti

[SHAD0W93]

There’s no way only one could get popped without the other being positive as well. That goes with MVDP as well if it’s Pogacar that has a positive of anything.

 

[Berniece]

There’s no way only one could get popped without the other being positive as well. That goes with MVDP as well if it’s Pogacar that has a positive of anything.

Difference with MVDP is that he isn’t good at everything and he isn’t good ALL THE TIME. You can see a clear difference between MVDP at Flanders or at LBL. He’s already on a downward trajectory. Pogi on the other hand is almost at 100% all the time, and never tires.

 

[Salvarani]

Difference with MVDP is that he isn’t good at everything and he isn’t good ALL THE TIME. You can see a clear difference between MVDP at Flanders or at LBL. He’s already on a downward trajectory. Pogi on the other hand is almost at 100% all the time, and never tires.

He only rides MTB, CC and road with great success.

He is just not a climber.

Pog is very complete and the best climber.

 

[SorelyBoy]

Difference with MVDP is that he isn’t good at everything and he isn’t good ALL THE TIME. You can see a clear difference between MVDP at Flanders or at LBL. He’s already on a downward trajectory. Pogi on the other hand is almost at 100% all the time, and never tires.

Yep. MVDP can’t do it all like golden balls can. He targets certain times of the year and certain types of races, primarily the classics season because he’s a classics type of rider, not even able to do what Van Aert can do in GC. He then goes missing as he moves into a recuperation block. Even with those races he targets there’s usually a pattern to his form, getting better as his season starts before eventually dropping off towards the end of his race sequence. In other words, he appears to be incredibly talented but ultimately human. Pogacar doesn’t seem to need rest, has little variation to his form through huge blocks of race sequences, doesn't see a parcours which he thinks doesn’t suit him, and can now even compete in sprint finishes. Sorry, that’s just not possible.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Difference with MVDP is that he isn’t good at everything and he isn’t good ALL THE TIME. You can see a clear difference between MVDP at Flanders or at LBL. He’s already on a downward trajectory. Pogi on the other hand is almost at 100% all the time, and never tires.

The issue for MVDP is he’s competitive and beating Pogacar at races while absolutely destroying the others, just like Vingegaard. If Pogacar tests positive Vingegaard and MVDP would go down as well and the UCI would never allow that. That was the point.

 

[Stablo]

He only rides MTB, CC and road with great success.

He is just not a climber.

Pog is very complete and the best climber.

Also the best climber I would say. His such a total clown, that these days im lost of words. Keep on believing, for me this joker is the worst I have ever witnessed in the modern sports. Slovenia in whole is starting to look extremely suspicious, a nation with 2 million is producing world class talent after another🤡🤌It's not like their genepool is so different compared to other European or even Eastern- European nations. A beatifull country, but in sports massively dubious, add in Gianetti&Co and voila!

 

[Salvarani]

The issue for MVDP is he’s competitive and beating Pogacar at races while absolutely destroying the others, just like Vingegaard. If Pogacar tests positive Vingegaard and MVDP would go down as well and the UCI would never allow that. That was the point.

There been numerous riders who dominated the sport like Pog is doing at the moment.

Coppi, Merckx, Hinault... they all won monuments and GTs. A lot of other races as well. Throughout every season at their peak.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

The issue for MVDP is he’s competitive and beating Pogacar at races while absolutely destroying the others, just like Vingegaard. If Pogacar tests positive Vingegaard and MVDP would go down as well and the UCI would never allow that. That was the point.

Not necessarily. They would only have to take one down to send a signal to the rest and/or the fans. Not that I believe they will do that at the moment.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Not necessarily. They would only have to take one down to send a signal to the rest and/or the fans. Not that I believe they will do that at the moment.

All three have been dominating the rest of the field. If one goes down it would start a chain reaction from the media and fans, especially if it’s Pogacar that goes down first.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

All three have been dominating the rest of the field. If one goes down it would start a chain reaction from the media and fans, especially if it’s Pogacar that goes down first.

I doubt they'd have the balls to catch them all. They're not Ash Ketchum, and even he needed years of proper training before he was capable of achieving it.

 

[SHAD0W93]

I doubt they'd have the balls to catch them all. They're not Ash Ketchum, and even he needed years of proper training before he was capable of achieving it.

If Pogacar goes down there’s no way Vingegaard and MVDP don’t as well due to how close they are to him and how much they dominate the others. There wouldn’t be anything close to this in the past. Three riders that absolutely dominate the rest of the field but the only thing tying Vingegaard and MVDP together is Pogacar.

There been numerous riders who dominated the sport like Pog is doing at the moment.

Coppi, Merckx, Hinault... they all won monuments and GTs. A lot of other races as well. Throughout every season at their peak.

And they’ve all had some doping controversy. Just because Pogacar is the best right now and best since Merckx doesn’t mean he’s not doping.

 

[Salvarani]

If Pogacar goes down there’s no way Vingegaard and MVDP don’t as well due to how close they are to him and how much they dominate the others. There wouldn’t be anything close to this in the past. Three riders that absolutely dominate the rest of the field but the only thing tying Vingegaard and MVDP together is Pogacar.


And they’ve all had some doping controversy. Just because Pogacar is the best right now and best since Merckx doesn’t mean he’s not doping.

Just responding to the point about being good in almost every race. A few riders throughout the history of the sport used to ride and win a lot. All-time great riders usually do that. Or any athlete that wins a lot in their sport... usually end up on a list of all-time greats of that sport.

 

[ColonelKidneyBeans]

Just responding to the point about being good in almost every race. A few riders throughout the history of the sport used to ride and win a lot. All-time great riders usually do that. Or any athlete that wins a lot in their sport... usually end up on a list of all-time greats of that sport.

Apples to Oranges. The riders who won a lot during the whole season in the past were racing against other riders who would also do the whole season (and track events/CX during the off season because why not). Pogacar is destroying riders targeting specific events like it's no big deal.

 

[Salvarani]

Apples to Oranges. The riders who won a lot during the whole season in the past were racing against other riders who would also do the whole season (and track events/CX during the off season because why not). Pogacar is destroying riders targeting specific events like it's no big deal.

Pretty sure there were a few specialists back then.

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

Not necessarily. They would only have to take one down to send a signal to the rest and/or the fans. Not that I believe they will do that at the moment.

With how wildly popular Pog is (I have a soft spot for the guy), there's no way the UCI takes him down publicly.

 

[Unchained]

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Pog opinion in first part of video, I live by it. Pogacar doesn't need to prove that he is clean..

 

[noob]

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nKqRxGJyCz8&pp=ygUdUm9hZG1hbiBjeWNsaW5nIHBvZ2FjYXIgY2xlYW7SBwkJwwkBhyohjO8%3D


Pog opinion in first part of video, I live by it. Pogacar doesn't need to prove that he is clean..

The perfect position to have if you want a scape goat. And humans craves scape goats.

 

[ColonelKidneyBeans]

Pretty sure there were a few specialists back then.

They were indeed, but they would ride the whole season just like ever other top rider, and the best guys were actually no slouch in the GC.