Tadej Pogacar and Mauro Giannetti

[pastronef]

Pogi has been building his legacy here for 5 years but still a long way to go to match the clinic GOAT: Froomey!

Froomey in his peak would get to the line MINUTES after the UAE train.

 

[ivanic]

The truly amazing thing is nobody seems to be asking questions. It's like a journalistic white flag has been raised over him. I don't take this as a sign, however, that suspicions have lessened from years past, just the hog has devoured all discent. Terrifying.

This is the most worrying thing. There's a guy who's been unstoppable for five years, and for two years he's won every race from February to October, almost always with performances unseen even in the 1990s. He doesn't even stand on the pedals, he doesn't even struggle.
If journalists and the media aren't asking questions today, about these performances, these constant victories, when should they? When will some poor bastard win a half-stage at the TDF?
Let's realize that Froome was bombarded with questions; journalists wanted him to publish his power data in 2015.
At this point, science must make every effort, every effort to discover the trick. Every effort.

 

[Stablo]

Hahaha! The omerta is alive an well. I made a couple of actually reasonable questions on pogs Instagram about the level, all year a round top form and never getting tired. No insults, no curse words and just honest questions. The comments got removed fast by the UAE/pog socialmedia team. Feels like im done, enjoy the clownshow then humanity. Just wondering if the UCI or UAE get any money from me if I stick to streams? 😂trying not to fund this dictatorship sponsored clownshow anymore.

Heh my bad, i can actually see my comments now, it was just a clitch i think. It's not getting any attention thou.

 

[AmRacer]

Heh my bad, i can actually see my comments now, it was just a clitch i think. It's not getting any attention thou.

What's the best result?
1-2-1-2 or 4-1-DNS-1?

 

[Stablo]

What's the best result?
1-2-1-2 or 4-1-DNS-1?

Not sure im getting this, but some have gotten tens of likes and in X hundreds of views.

 

[AmRacer]

Not sure im getting this, but some have gotten tens of likes and in X hundreds of views.

What has that to do with anything? The results are Remco's and Tadej's.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

I have been seeing the emptiness in his eyes too. Yeah the coming to goals celebrations still come from the memory, but after the race interviews he looks like a joyless robot. Even the after race interview yeasterday and this years Tour on many occasions. His happy when having fun on the bike, training with Urska, the team and friends, but it really looks like his feeling the robot-like expectations too much these days. Because of my work i actually have to be quite good in reading peoples emotions and how they feel. It's different on video than real life, but still it certainly looks like not everything is fine. I think the supercharging after 23/24 winter has taken it's toll.

I think you need to look up the word eisegesis.

 

[Stablo]

What has that to do with anything? The results are Remco's and Tadej's.

You were replying to my post about IG comments 😅so it seemed a bit weird.

 

[Stablo]

I think you need to look up the word eisegesis.

Maybe it's that, but now that it came up again and from another poster. He really doesn't look joyfull, but i guess you are right and we are stuck to this for another 5-10 years. The UCI and their anti-doping is surely not going to do anything.

 

[AmRacer]

You were replying to my post about IG comments 😅so it seemed a bit weird.

Still, who's results are better?

 

[Extinction]

This is the most worrying thing. There's a guy who's been unstoppable for five years, and for two years he's won every race from February to October, almost always with performances unseen even in the 1990s. He doesn't even stand on the pedals, he doesn't even struggle.
If journalists and the media aren't asking questions today, about these performances, these constant victories, when should they? When will some poor bastard win a half-stage at the TDF?
Let's realize that Froome was bombarded with questions; journalists wanted him to publish his power data in 2015.
At this point, science must make every effort, every effort to discover the trick. Every effort.

I'm not even bitter, because, worse, I'm disinterested. Sure, I'll watch the races, but there is no longer suspense. Nowadays, once he drops everyone from a long, long way out, I lose interest, half-watch, because cycling at his speed is boring, takes my eyes from the screen and I start doing other things. That Gianetti is the mastermind behind it only invites ennui, lethargy and ultimately resignation. I don't know, but this can't be the way to move the sport foreward. At some point, even cycling may get the message.

 

[Stablo]

Still, who's results are better?

From what races are those? I really don't think anyone in their right mind can compare pogs&Remcos results. I can admit Remco is already high in the all time list at 25years, but pog has had two seasons that only riders in the sixties can match and it's absurd&unbeliavable. That era the level of competition was totally different than know, when every tiny thing matters and there are hundreds of professionals.

 

[Notarobot]

The good thing is, most comments on social media are negative towards Pogacar. That's something that happened pretty recent, last year it was all praise the lord for Pogacar, or Pogi as they like to call their savior.

 

[AmRacer]

From what races are those? I really don't think anyone in their right mind can compare pogs&Remcos results. I can admit Remco is already high in the all time list at 25years, but pog has had two seasons that only riders in the sixties can match and it's absurd&unbeliavable. That era the level of competition was totally different than know, when every tiny thing matters and there are hundreds of professionals.

WC and EC 2025

 

[Stablo]

WC and EC 2025

Okey and the point was? Two TT:s and two roadraces. If pogsters results were those of Remcos from the past five years I wouldn't be questioning anything. Yeah well I would not like Gianetti,Matxin and the oil dictatorship anyway, but that's just my world view and the results would still be "beliavable".

For the sake of cycling, I am actually starting to hope that Redbull really gives you wings and the other teams would also up their antes. Any means neccessary if this is what UCI wants.

 

[AmRacer]

Okey and the point was? Two TT:s and two roadraces. If pogsters results were those of Remcos from the past five years I wouldn't be questioning anything. Yeah well I would not like Gianetti,Matxin and the oil dictatorship anyway, but that's just my world view and the results would still be "beliavable".

For the sake of cycling, I am actually starting to hope that Redbull really gives you wings and the other teams would also up their antes. Any means neccessary if this is what UCI wants.

The point is that Remco had better results. And as others have pointed out, Remco crashes a lot.