Tadej Pogacar and Mauro Giannetti

[AmRacer]

Fine feel free to disagree. It never happened and it would still be very different from what we have seen from pogster the past years. Period.

I am not saying that Remco etc. are clean either, but the playing field on dope(normal or mechanical) is never even and it is 100% certain, that currently Gianetti&UAE are doing something the others can't/won't. I would bet my head on this.

Yes, I agree. It would have been an amazing never heard of achievement.

 

[AmRacer]

This argument fails on all accounts. Even if we ignore the random limitation to the latest WC/EC races, the implication that winning the two road races is worse than remcos results also seems absurd. Do you think pogi would like to trade for remcos WC/EC results? I don't

Remco got second in both RR. It would have been different had he only get top 10. I do think ITT < RR, but winning ITT > 4th and DNS.

 

[Stablo]

This argument fails on all accounts. Even if we ignore the random limitation to the latest WC/EC races, the implication that winning the two road races is worse than remcos results also seems absurd. Do you think pogi would like to trade for remcos WC/EC results? I don't

This exactly. And these two races are a very minor thing in the bigger picture, about the most juiced up rider in cyclings history. Or maybe not the most juiced one, but the advantage is bigger than we have ever seen. EPO-era there was still many big winners, now it's basically dopačar in the races he decides to enter. Only MDVP and Remco to collect the scraps from the table a few times out of tens.

 

[Ripper]

The point is Ricco was laughable. Nobody was surprised when he was busted for CERA. And pretty sure Saunier Duval wasn’t the only team with dodgy management who are still involved in other teams today?

He was, wasn't he? He and de Luca somewhat made me laugh!

Regarding dodgy (or corrupt) management, absolutely UAE is not the only team, but I think they are also by far winning in that category.