Tadej Pogacar and Mauro Giannetti

[ashhutch1997]

The worst part is the fact the cameras were on Gianetti after the race. Get this vampire away from the sport.

 

[110]

Its not difficult. The wheels and bottom bracket are in plain sight. If the UCI is following its own rules his bike would be checked by a qualified mechanic after the finish. And all types of possible electro mechanical assistance will be seen if they look at wheels and disassemble the bottom bracket.

Plus the UCI claim to use x-ray machines. If all of this is not happening for major races then people need to be screaming - including rival teams as I've said before here.

It is far, far more difficult to scrutineer formula one cars for illegal devices and software.

use your eyes and logic
instead of this dead end path nonsense
about UCI (UAE) claims

https://twitter.com/x/status/2040798304187867378

View: https://x.com/cyclingontnt/status/2040798304187867378/

 

[Cookster15]

it is not difficult to bribe people with money

see for example Hein Verbruggen
UAE = UCI
checking means nothing when everything is rotten to bottom
and full of corruption

perhaps you mean cheque

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Of course corruption is possible. People say this can happen as rival teams are satisfied with the status quo and to complain raises the risk of massive litigation if you cannot prove your public claims.

But Red Bull play, and win, in Formula One and have an enormous global marketing budget - up to $US3.7 billion. They would not like the proportion of that investment in cycling compromised by a rival team who cheats. Sure $60 mil invested in cycling is chump's change for Red Bull but that value is still being diluted if Pogacar and Gianetti are using motors to win the TdF and Monuments like today.

But I just don't believe what we are seeing is motors. I also prefer the microscope be placed upon how the UCI's doctors are monitoring blood doping. I don't think there is enough scrutiny of that.

 

[ashhutch1997]

There's NO expectation as to him winning Paris Roubaix, but he will. 60kg climber dropping almost 80kg riders on the flat. I'm sorry I can't see how that's possible. This has become a clownshow.

 

[SorelyBoy]

MVDP said he was pushing 650 watts when Pogi rode away

Move along, move along, nothing to see here. Ffs 😂

 

[SorelyBoy]

use your eyes and logic
instead of this dead end path nonsense
about UCI (UAE) claims

https://twitter.com/x/status/2040798304187867378

View: https://x.com/cyclingontnt/status/2040798304187867378/

Femke Van den Driessche probably feeling a bit annoyed to be fair.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I was sick today and burnt out from singing the Easter triduum, so I sat down and watched it. It was exciting until it wasn't. I didn't like the result. Moto pacing and MvdP's lack of tactics wouldn't have changed the result. Pogacar would have just dropped a bigger bomb if necessary. Pog rode well within himself. He's thinking about next week. I tried to stop watching cycling but I haven't been able to quit yet. I think I might need an intervention. Next week could be it.

They should bring back the Tour of Ireland. We need some real and pure racing.

 

[Ulle97]

Can somebody please explain what people are complaining about from the above video.

What is the issue with Pogačar’s back wheel???

 

[E_F_]

We've been through this so many times. They. Don't. Check. The. Bikes. Yes they could make motor doping impossible easy, peasy... But they aren't doing that. It is possible. But because it could be impossible, I guess every single time anyone mentions it, we need to go over it again, because the onus is on "us" to explain why it would be possible, if they actually did make it impossible. I'm not even too keen on the motor theory any longer - the arguments for obviously aren't strong at all - but none of the arguments for ruling it out are either.

 

[Ulle97]

We've been through this so many times. They. Don't. Check. The. Bikes. Yes they could make motor doping impossible easy, peasy... But they aren't doing that. It is possible. But because it could be impossible, I guess every single time anyone mentions it, we need to go over it again, because the onus is on "us" to explain why it would be possible, if they actually did make it impossible. I'm not even too keen on the motor theory any longer - the arguments for obviously aren't strong at all - but none of the arguments for ruling it out aren't at all either.

So based on the video, what can we gather that may indicate he has a motor propelling him forward?
This doesn't resemble Cancellara style suspicions.

 

[E_F_]

So based on the video, what can we gather that may indicate he has a motor propelling him forward?
This doesn't resemble Cancellara style suspicions.

I'm not talking about the video, but the claim that we need to prove that it's (not im)possible, when we've already done that many times over. I'm as lost as you with the video!

 

[jotafap]

So based on the video, what can we gather that may indicate he has a motor propelling him forward?
This doesn't resemble Cancellara style suspicions.

Absolutely nothing is possible to conclude, just people trying to cope in the most hilarious ways.

 

[aphronesis]

Of course corruption is possible. People say this can happen as rival teams are satisfied with the status quo and to complain raises the risk of massive litigation if you cannot prove your public claims.

But Red Bull play, and win, in Formula One and have an enormous global marketing budget - up to $US3.7 billion. They would not like the proportion of that investment in cycling compromised by a rival team who cheats. Sure $60 mil invested in cycling is chump's change for Red Bull but that value is still being diluted if Pogacar and Gianetti are using motors to win the TdF and Monuments like today.

But I just don't believe what we are seeing is motors. I also prefer the microscope be placed upon how the UCI's doctors are monitoring blood doping. I don't think there is enough scrutiny of that.

Wasn’t this touched on a few months ago in that external testers report irregularities or fluctuations to the UCI, who then decide what to do with the results?

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

There's NO expectation as to him winning Paris Roubaix, but he will. 60kg climber dropping almost 80kg riders on the flat. I'm sorry I can't see how that's possible. This has become a clownshow.

He's not a 60kg climber though. UAE and PCS list him as 66kg. It's the classic season, so he might be heavier.

 

[Unchained]

I don't know what it looked like in each country but the Spanish and French Eurosport coverage even had a graphic on the screen after large selection was made, the graphic showing how many riders from each team were in the extra large breakaway.
Visma and Bora had obvious good quality with a really racing well Laporte and Remco who looked great all day. Wout looked good, MvdP looking good, and veteran Gianni Vermeersch rolling nicely..
Why did anyone other than UAE pull for Pogacar and race using his tactics, why did the entire break race against themselves and contribute to Tadej when he is the only guy in bike racing that doesn't need additional gifts..It was crazy to take important pulls helping Pog and not sending rabbits like Laporte to be chased.. If he rode a minute or 90+ seconds off the front, most of the time, that is out of sight given roads, with bumps and curves. Why did teams have meeting after meeting, yelling in the radio, don't help Pogacar, don't work for or with him..but they all still did it