Tadej Pogacar and Mauro Giannetti

[onefortheroad]

I was referring specifically to the phenomenon of being good on all courses year-round, of which he is the singular master.

I don't know what cocktail of secret sauces he might be on, but it must be powerful for sure. A motor is a satisfying explanation, if implausible. I don't like to think that UAE have access to some nuclear grade rocket fuel, because cycling would be insufferable with a peloton of Pogacars. At least a motor could be detected because it has to be used in competition and it is either present or not.

Cycling is in a dark place (yet again) and don't see any appetite to catch a big fish. We need the police to get involved.

I get your point on the "fairness", I was just poking fun.
You mention the "sauces", but perhaps the alchemy is simpler. We might just be watching a perfect play in a theatre of shadows. After all, it’s easier to manage a silence than to explain a noise.
Perhaps a look behind the curtain is what’s needed.

 

[Unchained]

I get your point on the "fairness", I was just poking fun.
You mention the "sauces", but perhaps the alchemy is simpler. We might just be watching a perfect play in a theatre of shadows. After all, it’s easier to manage a silence than to explain a noise.
Perhaps a look behind the curtain is what’s needed.

This thread has gone in an absolutely incredible direction! And this last assertion is extra, extraordinary! It's easier to manage silence? Said no criminal ever! Can you imagine a worldwide conspiracy that includes Canada, California and Kigali! Everyone with mum is the word! A complete criminal collusion network to not rat out Pogacar or anyone on UAE! A super sports silence network that was agreed to in 2019! Talk about visionaries! Was it the Australians or Californians that conspired first to keep his forever secret!
And people don't talk out of fear? Honor? Money? Still can't figure what Tadej brings to this thousands of people relationship that has everyone remaining silent!!! Absolutely amazing.

 

[onefortheroad]

This thread has gone in an absolutely incredible direction! And this last assertion is extra, extraordinary! It's easier to manage silence? Said no criminal ever! Can you imagine a worldwide conspiracy that includes Canada, California and Kigali! Everyone with mum is the word! A complete criminal collusion network to not rat out Pogacar or anyone on UAE! A super sports silence network that was agreed to in 2019! Talk about visionaries! Was it the Australians or Californians that conspired first to keep his forever secret!
And people don't talk out of fear? Honor? Money? Still can't figure what Tadej brings to this thousands of people relationship that has everyone remaining silent!!! Absolutely amazing.

What a spy novel overthinking the drama...
Same roof with a LOD that follows the norm. You don’t need a pact to stay quiet.

 

[DONCA]

This might be something or not- a rider who was considered better then Pogi, is now Pogi's best bud and masseur - after spending 2 years with his Slovenian compatriot Rozman at Ineos. Was Maestro Baltazar a topic of conversation?
https://peloton.si/pogacarjev-dobri-prijatelj-postal-njegov-serviser/

Thanks for the link.
Thats very interesting.

Rozman was Froomes best "buddy". He "helped" him winning many Tours.
Žiga Jerman might have learned from the best With him pogacar became a robot.

 

[Divergence]

SO did he look labored enough today?

 

[Notarobot]

Not even breathing man. Just a fun ride for our wonderboy

 

[SorelyBoy]

I guess Pogacar had an extra gear…

 

[Abedfo]

Well it was fun for 10mins. Then the extra ahem wattage is applied. Those 40watts they engineered in the winter really coming in handy

 

[MartinGT]

Its laughable how Hatch can sit there and mention EVERY week how speeds are getting quicker.

 

[MartinGT]

Just chilled AF in his interview, not even close to looking FUBAR LOL

 

[Gianetti_Is_The_Goat]

So... that's six wins and two 2nd places in the past 8 monuments.
Don't forget that this is perfectly normal.
So I've been told.

 

[110]

Its laughable how Hatch can sit there and mention EVERY week how speeds are getting quicker.

Hatch is hacked

 

[E_F_]

Hatch is hacked

Hatch should shut his ***

 

[Krzysztof_O]

So... that's six wins and two 2nd places in the past 8 monuments.
Don't forget that this is perfectly normal.
So I've been told.

It's even better! 8 wins out of the last 11 monuments (plus 2 runner-ups and a 3rd place).
Porridge is still working.

 

[SorelyBoy]

Anyone who thinks any of this is normal needs to wake up. I’m not going to repeat the whole argument again in terms of methods, but I really fear that governance integrity has been captured or compromised in some way. Money did it before and it’s likely doing it again, except this time the amounts involved are orders of magnitude greater than we saw thirty years ago. It’s this factor which I believe makes it possible for certain methods to be implemented, which were hitherto impossible to even consider.

 

[Divergence]

Anyone who thinks any of this is normal needs to wake up. I’m not going to repeat the whole argument again in terms of methods, but I really fear that governance integrity has been captured or compromised in some way. Money did it before and it’s likely doing it again, except this time the amounts involved are orders of magnitude greater than we saw thirty years ago. It’s this factor which I believe makes it possible for certain methods to be implemented, which were hitherto impossible to even consider.

Did Decathlon give just as much money or more?

 

[ppanther92]

I've been following this here for a while, and the reason is simple: I am 100% convinced that Pogacar is using mechanical doping. It is unbelievable that this is simply possible, and we are seeing all kinds of indirect evidence. I stopped watching after the La Flèche Wallonne 2025, except for the Tour. And since last Sunday, I've become a bit more enthusiastic again. The 2025 La Flèche Wallonne, where, as always, he first looks down before suddenly dropping everyone out of nowhere.

I think they (and he) are/is doping (obviously I might want to add). I still do not buy at all in the mechanical doping theory. Must be super easy to detect (get the frame - test it - what they are doing btw), easy to replicate (anyone can buy and build it into the frame), involves so many parties (mechanics, development people, bike manufacturers - way harder to keep it in a tight circle).

 

[ppanther92]

Did Decathlon give just as much money or more?

The answer is - yes

 

[ppanther92]

I think he was on the limit on Redoute btw. Not that it means anything. But just saying.

 

[Divergence]

The answer is - yes

So what will happen when the French guy cannot beat the Slovenian? Are they both gonna go down?

 

[Bronstein]

New Redoute record - https://www.domestiquecycling.com/en/news/tadej-pogacar-breaks-cote-de-la-redoute-record/